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Wow! Way toughter than normal!

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Rastamage, Dec 21, 2009.

  1. Rastamage Gems: 6/31
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    I'm in Chateau Irenicus. There are duergar instead of goblins and the otyugh was greater and cast carrion summons and dolorous decay. This is way harder than normal! Can anybody tell me the name of the mod? Does it effect the whole game or just make Chateau Irenicus harder?

    I added some stuff to make it more spicy but I'm not sure I want to play a whole game with this much hard stuff. If I knew which mod made the changes I'd have more idea of what is in store.
     
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    [​IMG] A list of what mods you have would be helpful :p

    There are several which make the dungeon more challenging after all ;)
    It's nice to see some people still play through the dungeon instead of skipping it :D
     
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    As 8people said, a list of mods would make it much easier to tell you what's going on. If you've got a lot installed and can't remember all of them then go into your BGII folder and open up your WEIDU log. Copy and paste the contents here.

    The replacing of the goblins with duegar sounds to me like Sword Coast Stratagems. I normally skip the first dungeon, but that one rings a bell. The aforementioned SCS, Improved Anvil and Tactics are the three mods that I'd expect to ramp up the difficulty of your game. All three of them affect the entire game.
     
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    ...be careful what you wish for....
     
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    If duergar spawn when you try to rest, it's probably the Improved Illych (sp?) component of Tactics.
     
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    If a super tough Ilych and his new party members, one who is an epic level duergar cleric summoning Fallen Deva, are at the library of the first level waiting for you, then yup, its definitely Tactic's Imp. Ilych component. Have fun! :shake:
     
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    Him and his red friends. Definitely Tactics.:p
     
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    Yeah, it was Tactics. My protagonist was xp capped from BG1 and I still couldn't handle how hard the dungeon was. I uninstalled it. Maybe I'll try it in a future run if I do BG1 without the xp cap. Thanks for all the comments.
     
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    It's doable with cheesy tacks and loads of reloads. Not that I find playing that way particularly fun.
     
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    It's doable even with no reloads :) but with cheesy tricks, yes. Then again, Tactics is one mod which make enemies use lots of cheese as well.

    It can be done relatively easy with a specialist mage or sorcerer with the right spell picks.
     
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    The only way to beat those guys is to either kill the cleric first, or you need some +2 weapon from the dungeon part where Yoshimo is (according to the mod's helpfile). Guess you need a +2 just to hit a deva.
     
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    You can not beat a Fallen Deva at that level, no matter which weapon you use. Not a chance. My other mods beef up Devas so they cast spells instantly, have vorpal weapons, and are scary!

    You need to disrupt the cleric's spell casting to prevent the summoning. Magic missile is the key. The cleric wears an undroppable full plate +2 so hitting him normally is hard, but he is vulnerable to magic missile. With enough MM you can disrupt all of his castings.

    You need to +2 weapons to hit the Neopyte Galebrezu, however it does not have any noticeable ability to pose a threat. The golem can easily be killed by quarterstaff+1 on the first level or with lvl 1 spell shilelagh (which Jaheira and Minsc should have)

    You need to get in the melee range of the sniper duergar lady with crossbow+3 or she is exceptionally lethal. Heck she is even dangerous even in melee range she uses +3 crossbow with +3 bolts and thus her aim is impressive.

    You need to keep Ilych busy with summons (he hits fast and hard) and only send one person first to talk to him to suck his initial Classic Blunder ability.

    The monk one is harmless enough unless you have very bad saving throws and fall to a lucky stunning fist in whih case that character is dead for sure.

    All duergars except Ilych are suspectible to enchantmens, ie:charm, hold, confusion though they have very good saving throw vs spells, being dwarf and high level and all. You need greater malison, doom spells to decrease their saving throws and even then, a lot of luck, but once they are affected, you gain a HUGE advantage.

    I find Improved Ilych a fascinating improvement over the utterly dull 'tutorial like' Irenicus dungeon, though I admit it is not for everyone.
     
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    If you keep reloading 'til you charm the cleric, the Fallen Deva is a wonderful ally.
     
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    I don't know. That just doesn't sound fun to me -- and this is coming from someone who enjoys Improved Anvil. To each his own, I suppose
     
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