Is a woman doing a man a favour when she has sex with him?

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The notion that a woman is doing a man a favour when she has sex with him seems to be prevalent in many of today's societies. Do you agree with this mindset? Why or why not?

 

huh?

 

Today's society portrays sexual intercourse between a male and a female as a chore for the female, and a privilege (ie. favour) for the male. Do you agree with this sentiment?

 

Mordea - Women have been blamed for the "fall of man" by religious zealots, in certain societies, all throughout history (and not just Christian). These people teach that if a woman desires sex as much as man that there is somethng wrong with them. It's no wonder that they are sometimes confused about their sexuailty in the sense that you describe.

 

So you don't agree with the notion that sex = privilege for man, and chore for woman?

 

Nope. But good luck getting most to admit it, on both sides.

 

That's a pretty loaded question there dude.

I don't even know where to begin. You need to define your question a bit more. Are you talking about a couple who've been married for several years, and the wife bribes the husband with sex if he cleans the bathroom? Or are you talking about a woman amongst a group of mutual friends who sleeps with a guy to "get him back on his feet" after getting dumped/divorced?

You also need to define whether or not the woman climaxes or not. If she does, then I'd instantly say, "No!"....but if she doesn't, well...then the guy is a selfish douchebag. As for it being a favor, it's hard to say...because it's not like she's not enjoying it at all.

I'm going to have to vote 'Other' on this one.

When you put it that way, without any further information, then no...I do not agree with that sentiment. Generally speaking, sex is an equally enjoyable activity....unless you're a woman in my bed, I like to keep a 1:10 ratio. I am a very unselfish Kitrax. The ex was a *very* spoiled and satisfied woman.

 

Kit - I hate to one the one to break it to you, but did you know that 80 percent of women fake it just to make the guy feel good? Really, look it up.

I don't believe the question is loaded at all. And regarding married women: The fact is that women change after having children -- for a while. They experience certain biological changes from child birth, and can take some time to return to normal. But I assure that they do at some point, at times with a vengence.

 

Ding ding ding. If a woman enjoys the act of sex, then one must conclude that it is not a chore for her, and not a privilege for the man.

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Do men ever have sex with a woman, even when they don't derive much pleasure from the act?

 

I "suspect" that would be true. Both sexes enjoy sex equally, and both are willing to use it as a tool for manipulation, or other reasons (like satisfying a partner) -- equally.

I would also speculate that for many men it's all about the "O" but for some women it is more complex than that, with many facets about sex (and the romance surounding it) that give them pleasure.

 

Heh...Chandos my friend, you can't fake what I would make her do over and over.
I obviously can't go into much detail, but let's just put it this way....she was one of the few special women who can...errr...do that magical thing when they climax. I'll say this, we had to keep a clean towel near the bed.

 

Can I ask you a question which isn't exactly related to the topic at hand? Why on earth did you get married in the first place? You don't strike me as the type of guy who is suited for marriage.

 

Oh, I didn't say it was true in your particular case, only pointing out the data.

 

Alright buddy, I don’t know you at all…and because you’re a relatively new member, you can’t really know me. It’s pretty damn hard to offend me…but you’re walking on a razor thin line. I was an excellent husband. The fact that all of *her* friends took my side in the divorce proves that point. I’m not saying that I’m not at fault for how things ended…but I wasn’t the unfaithful one.

But to answer your question, here are just some of the top reasons I pulled off the top of my head….
#5 - She was a sexy model...who doesn't want to be married to a model?
#4 - She was great in the sac.
#3 - I met her in high school. We took a break from each other after I graduated, but we came right back after a few months.
#2 - We moved out together very soon after she graduated. When we got married, we had been dating non-stop for 5 years, and living on our own for 3 years. We had built a life together, and I was the happiest I’d ever been. I felt complete being with her.
#1 - I loved her more than anything else in the world.

At one point, after things turned sour, I loved her more than my own life...which is why I'm on "happy pills" now. And now that you've brought back terrible memories, I'm going to go take another dose and call it a night. -.-

 

This is without a doubt one of the stupidest questions i've ever been asked.

 

Ah, but it kicked off a discussion, didn't it? A lot of women do use sex as a tool, but then, as was mentioned, men use emotional tools as well, so no big deal. The question is too general, so I went with the "other" option. While my opinions on women are somewhat tainted by my divorce, I still recognize that all women are not homogeneous in their behaviour.

 

I wasn't questioning your dedication to your ex-wife, nor your competence as a husband. I'm simply observing that you seem like too much of a free spirit (and a bit of a playboy!) to be tied down at this stage in life. \

You are right though, I hardly know you. I'm simply making some assumptions about what you have posted on an online forum.

Me, for starters.

You don't need to be married to get sex.

OK.

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to bring back bad memories.

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How do you know this?

I don't agree with this. From what I have observed, women are far more likely to use sex as a tool for manipulation. For example, you will rarely hear of men espousing 'no sex before marriage', unless they are religious. Women are far more likely to dictate 'no sex before marriage', often so that the man is forced to put all his cards on the table. Ergo. Women are willing, even early in a relationship, to deny sex to determine whether the man will marry (and therefore by association, have a family) with her.

I'm not say that all women, or even a bare majority of women, do this. However, that behaviour is observed far more commonly in the female gender, even in sexually liberated Western nations.

I don't agree with this either. If all that mattered was the "O", then men would stay home and jerk off. Sex, and the orgasm, brings about intimacy. Without it, there is no romantic relationship.

 

First, add your gender to your profile. Yes it matters.

Both sides manipulate, both side have sympathy sex. males cannot fake orgasm, females can. And by doing so damage the male bigger then they realise.

Sex is not love, it is lust. In love lust comes. So sex wihtout love is possible.


To answer the poll: from the female point yes I think women can do it in there manipulation style or out of sympathy. From the male point no, since males do not see it as a favour.


Is this not a MUG topic?

 

I really depends upon the circumstances, but in most cases the answer would be a firm no. There are of course individual cases where the woman does not enjoy the sex and simply does it as a favor to the man.

Personally I've never had what I'd call "bad" sex, it's always been more or less enjoyable, while a few women I've talked to about it claim to have had sex which has not been enjoyable at all. Since I can't put myself in a female body and verify the truthfulness of these statements, I'll have to trust their word on it.

 

I'm sorry.

I honestly kept laughing reading this thread.

Of course women enjoy sex. I have no idea what society your in, yet if you haven't noticed a woman enjoying sex then my apologies

And yes, men use sex to manipulate and for there own purposes. To presume women do it exclusively or *far* more often than men is just ridiculous.