Solo rogue

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hi,

is the game doable with a solo rogue ? i seriously doubt it because its a very battle oriented game but one never knows.... i already soloed bg1 and SoA with a rogue kitted to an assassin and i had fun, so i'd like to try it in iwd2

also, why are intelligence and wisdom primary attributes to a rogue ? i can understand how wisdom enhances your saves vs magic, but what about intelligence, what does it do except giving you more skills points ?

 

Soloing the game with a rogue shouldn't be too difficult.
Intelligence and wisdom aren't primary attributes to a rogue. Int is good for skill points and traps but wisdom is a dump stat.

 

well thats not what they say here:

http://www.gamebanshee.com/icewinddaleii/classes/rogue.php

they say wiz and int are important along with dex

my thiefling rogue has the following stats

str: 15
dex 20
con 14
int 14
wiz 14
cha 1

should i start over ? if so, which attributes should i raise ?

also, is dual-wielding usable in backstabing ?

 

That's quite simply wrong, Wisdom will give them a will saving throw boost but thats it. Strength and constitution would be more important to me.

What stats to use? first, dont start with odd numbered stats on things important to you. Good stats for a tiefling rogue would be:
Str 18
Dex 20
Con 18
Int 16
Wis 3
Cha 3

Dont know if I've done my sums right, but it should be something similar.

 

You can beat the game with this character, but I'd start over. You're not playing BG2 where strength is useless and a little dagger does almost as much damage as a greatsword.

Pump up your strength to the maximum and raise it as high as possible at level ups. You don't want to bore yourself slowly poking enemies to death, you want to destroy them as fast as possible.

Definitely put points from wis to con, will saves aren't even as useful as fortitude saves and you need the hitpoints.
I recommend the same stats as the previous poster.

 

thanks guys, alright i'll start over, though maybe i should even out wiz and int to an average of 10 ?

and what about dual-wielding, can you double backstab with it ?

 

I dont know but I dont think so.

As for averaging out Wiz and Int to 10 - up to you. It makes more sense role playing wise, since it would be unlikely for someone to be that intelligent but that foolish.

Gameplay wise? I know I'd go for maxed int and lowered wis, but there are good reasons for wanting higher will saves (not that average wis will make a massive difference!). if I were a solo rogue though, I'd want to the extra skill points from intelligence so that I can put points into things like use magic item, which will allow you to use items normally unavailable to rogues. Plus as a solo character, you might want to invest in a broader range of skills, such as some talking skills, eg bluff and intimidate, as well as the usual rogue skills such as hide, move silently, search and disable device.

You might want to consider a regular human because of that - they get fewer stat points but they get a bonus to their skill points. A tiefling would make a better combatant though, and I'd ignore the level adjustment.

EDIT: maybe read Jukka's Ultimate Powergaming Party guide. Its quite long, maybe just read the first few chapters, but it might give you some ideas on a cool character. Ignore the HOF stuff unless you are a masochist (HOF solo rogue? is it possible?). Oh yeah, you also need to decide whether you are into powergaming or not! just in case you dont know, powergaming refers to playing the game by the letter of the rules and not the spirit, in other words every choice you make is guided by how it will help your character win the game and not how it would make sense from a role playing point of view.

 

I'm quite sure you cannot sneak attack twice. Testing it with the goblins or NPCs in the prologue should only take a few minutes if you want to be absolutely sure.

I wouldn't transfer points from int to wis, although you could get through the game without trouble with even 6 int more int means more skillpoints, more options, more XP (extra dialogues if you boost those skills) and more fun, more wis only helps very little in very few situations where you have to make a will save (which usually can be avoided). There's even an unnecessary feat which is as useful as 4 wis for this character but no feat which adds as as many benefits as 2 int.

I definitely wouldn't take more than 3-4 wis. I'd rather transfer points from int to cha so you get cheaper shop prices and get "use magic device" and diplomatic skills to decent values earlier.

 

well i eventually put 16 in int and 5 in wis, in order to max out all of the thieve skills

too bad sneak attack doesn't deal as much damage as bg2's backstab, it would've been a delight

 

This can be a topic of heated debate around here, but thats the reason I dont consider rogues in IWD2 very useful.

In comparison with backstab, sneak attack does far less damage (IMHO). Its only advantage is that you can sneak attach someone twice without having to hide, as far as I know. So, you sneak attack some orc while he is fighting another character, and I believe if he doesnt turn around to face you, you can sneak attack him again. Something like that.

Personally... I prefer to not have a straight rogue, but to multiclass rogue with something else, usually either wizard (benefits from the high intelligence) or fighter/barbarian (for obvious reasons).

 

i dont know if i'm going to continue this solo rogue journey, it implies too many loadings and reloadings.... which on top of being an annoyance, might prove fatal for my old laptop's hard-drive

 

I think you should consider a mix in class for your rogue. One level of ranger will give you weapon proficiencies and dual wield. Taking four levels of fighter for weapon specialization is great too.

You should put all the points you can into INT, because you can get cross class skills like spellcraft, so that you can identify the spells enemies are casting.