Artifacts & relics 1st edition AD&D?

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None of them. It's an okay combat system, though horribly broken in every single edition, and that's about the extent of the good that can be said about D&D.

 

Then wtf are you doing here? Lol!

 

It's not my fault developers chose shitty systems to make good games.

 

LOL! Did you ever try any of the systems/editions? Or were/are you just so disgusted that you never did?

Serious question. Not trying to be a smart ass or sarcastic. Just curious.

 

I've been playing D&D since late 80s. Well, I say play, but I've spent more time trying to fix all the stupidity than playing the actual game. Unfortunately, D&D was pretty much the only thing people were interested in playing, in no small part because of all the excellent D&D/d20 cRPGs no doubt, and it was one of the only systems that was available for purchase in stores. There were occasional attempts at other games (like WoD, WHFRP, Shadowrun, etc.) but no one was invested enough for them to last very long.

It wasn't until WotC screwed the pooch with 4th edition that people seriously started to consider changing to something else and it was only in the last few years that I've been able to convince people to drop Pathfinder's ever more broken system in favor of something more elegant and functional.

 

I hear that. I always wanted to try shadowrun but I was the only one due to $$$
Did you ever play it? If so how was it?

 

We've managed to do a couple of sessions over the years and I do enjoy the setting and feel of it, but no one ever cared to learn the system. With the massive undertaking that is mastering the D&D system, asking people to delve into the complexities of another, very different one with the slim prospect of potentially running a campaign was just too much to ask.

Honestly, if Cypher wasn't so easy to introduce people to, I doubt I'd have ever convinced people to switch. But now that we have, there's a whole world of possibilities.