Just my thoughts on Torment

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I played through torment twice and loved it. But i thought i was lacking a lot of the 'secret special quests' which i learned from reading posts on this forum were actually left out of the final game.

This second paragraph is from reading a post in this forum that i can't quite remmber the address of.

I also know from reading the afforementioned (posh word) post there will be know torment 2. but they could release all the stuff that was left out in patch format.
Although there won't be a torment 2 thats not the same as saying this will be the only planescape game. I read in one of the posts someones idea for a sequel/prequel with the other npcs in it (anna, dakkon, nordom etc) but not as people who would join your group.
This could be used in a 2nd planescape game so that perhaps you could find out wat happened to them after the fortress of regrets. Perhaps in a 2nd planescape game you could have the more detailed character creation from bg1+2 after all the rules are already laid out for different races in the pen and paper version of planescape.

Please reply with your views on this.


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Man that would ROCK! PT was already near perfect. If added the best details from the other games...what a game it could become!
And all those races...GAWD it would rock to play as a modron, githyanki, githzerai or even a fiend!
By the way...check out our story here on the board. It deals with what happened after the game ended. If you are a true PT maniac then please help us write it.

 

I've already read the story and it's great. Thanks for your view divine shadow. Yep your right playing as a modron would be great and perhaps all little kid modrons could mention nordom and say " ooo i hope i will grow up to be like the great modron hero nordom the mentally deranged! "

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Like the story idea also, added a chapter.

 

I remembered the post that gave me the idea for this post about a 2nd non torment planescape game. It's at http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000066.html
Ironically it's one of yours divine shadow that made me think of it. The bit about seeing pc's [dakkon, morte] from torment as npc's in a planescape universe game like elminster and drizz't were in the bg games.

 

Torment is REeeeely fun...

A Torment 2 could be made on the big war thing that u see in the end movie which looks fun..

Thats my thort

Spark

 

Spark you should read the story that has the namless one/named one in that "big war you see at the end" aka the Blood War.

 

sorry about adding to an old topic - hope i'm not guilty of one of the unforgivable crimes

would there really be much point in a torment 2? (sequel not prequel)

after playing torment through i had a warm glow-y feeling, much satisfaction and utter contentment- another game would ruin that for me. am i alone in this?

 

Ipsian i disagree and think you are alone they would be point in torment 2 for the same resaon as there was a bg2. Becasue there are unanswered questions. And questions need answers

 

But Mr.Bonzo, there was definatly a plot to carry on with in BG2.

In torment, the questions to be answered recide (erm bad spellin there) before the game started. We know he goes to fight in the Blood War, and we know hes mortal. Kinda self expanitory

 

Mr.Ipsian are you saying that someone who fought and worked and learned some neat tricks to get to the fortress of regrets would be simply killed by some fiends or devils no he could fight his way out.

p.s. read the story

p.p.s. how amny times ahve you finished the game.

 

theres a big difference between a city and a war.

ps yes i have read the story
pps once

 

Mr.Ipsian for someone who says they have finished torment you should know that although sigil is the centre of the game not all of it is in cities. Also in the case of sigil and portals everywhere wars are small time to a cutter who can survive and navigate his way through sigil. More than one naive cutter like you Ipsian has ended up a deder in sigils mean streets.

 

by that logic, the hive dwellers them selves should be able to cope very well in the Blood War. Ingress is the only one who wemeet in the whooooooooole game who has trouble.

 

I said someone who can surviuve and navigate his way through sigil. Sigil is a place of portals the cutters themselves rarely use or know where these portals are. They are likely to be killed by thugs also even thoguh you don't see it. What you see of sigil in the game is only 2 wards and 4 sections of the hive plus and alley and a collectors square.

By this logic since most hive dwellers don't navigate portal city via portals they are excluded from my statemnt which i was reffering to the nameless/named one not everyday non portallers.

 

Sigil's more dangerous than the blood war? Go talk to Ghysis the crooked in the Sensate hall. Listen to his babbling about "paper soldiers". It's true that people have got out of the blood war alive (Ghysis is one) but they're apparently very rare, need *powerful* friends, and have to pay a very high price for the service. If it wasn't for the lady of pain, the blood war would have stormed all over Sigil and left it in smoking ruins. Another thing, torment is about finding out who you are and all the cool dialogue. The blood war is about fiends killing each other in a huge bloodbath. A sequel set largely in the blood war would be verging onto Diablo territory a bit. However, I think that The Nameless one *did* serve in the blood war, and *did* figure a way out. I think a prequel, as someone suggested in that other post might be better. Every character has a huge potential for that (Grace escaping from the fiends etc.) you could even put a prequel into a sequel, the whole idea being that now you've got your memories, you have to confront your past to keep your sanity. However, in any related game, the appearance of the original cast should be limited, not like in BGII where it seems that the entire population of the Sword Coast followed you into Amn.

SPOILER
It involved a woman who is now deceased (presumably), and if he did find a way to do it again we'd be right back to the start.

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What i meant about sigil being dangerous and the nameless one's journeys is that the namless one is not a normal citizen of fighter/mage/thief but all three and at an incredibly high level compared to normal people. Therefore he should be able to kill some fiends in the blood war (after all i did when i soloed and arrived in baator those fiends couldn't touch me). I hope u understand now.

 

Okay, I get your point but....
1) I don't personally like the idea of being so powerful there's nothing you have to run away from (notice in the contributions I have made to the story, Named One is helpless - I think the whole point of the nameless one is being helpless and confused)
2) The blood war battlefield has loads and loads of fiends, Ghysis told you about his boastful friends. It's big, it's bad.
3) As I said a sequel in the blood war would have so much fighting it may well be more Diablo than Torment.
hmmm, looks like the same point 3 times, oh well...

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