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Trolls won't die

Discussion in 'Icewind Dale (Classic)' started by uglijimus, May 17, 2006.

  1. uglijimus Gems: 6/31
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    This is about the trolls in Dragon's Eye, on the second level (not the ice trolls). After getting them down to near death, I loaded some fire arrows with my thief. He hit three times in a row but nothing happened?!! Then I used an acid arrow and the first time it hit, the troll died. Is this a bug? Shouldn't fire arrows kill trolls as well?
     
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    The fire dmg from the Arrows of Fire allows a saving throw (vs. Spell).
    This doesn't happen with the Acid dmg from the Acid arrows ;)
     
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    Thetruth is right as always, but saving throw was breath weapon in BG2? It says 'spell' in description but in game victims do make save vs breath, anyway...

    Did you notice that fire arrows did no fire damage at all? You can tell fire damage by its fiery little explosion upon impact. It seems, as unlikely as it may seem, trolls hard skin just resisted and prevented the arrow from igniting, via a succesful saving throw. Fire arrows are not the most trusty weapons, but acid arrows ROCK, they do an astounding amount of 2d6 extra acid damage PER shot, which does massive damage so quick it ain't funny, and there is no saving throw to halve/resist.

    In BG2 though, they are reduced to just 1d3 damage for balance reasons, yet they still do not allow a saving throw.
     
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    that makes total sense now! thanks. it also sucks!!!
     
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    What sucks? Acid arrows? There is limited amount of that type of arrows and why not kill some nasty monsters quickly.
     
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    I think he says that flaming arrows suck, acid arrows rock in IWD, and there are plenty of them, spectral shopkeeper in Severed Hand sells lots, and you can buy or find even more through HoW.
     
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    The fact that trolls get a saving throw against fire arrows is what sucks. I'm pretty sure they didn't in BGII. I have plenty of fire arrows and only 2 acid arrows left and I'm still in the dragon's eye (crossing my fingers). Unfortunately I don't have HOW installed.
     
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    Don't worry. After the second Dragon's Eye level you won't meet trolls anymore except in chapter5.

    You fill find melee weapons which will do extra poison or fire damage until then.

    Trolls can also be finished with fire or poison spells like burning hands or melf's acid arrow.
     
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    @kmonster, sounds sweet. i look forward to it!!
     
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