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Adventurous Bard In Need Of Spell Help

Discussion in 'Neverwinter Nights (Classic)' started by Big B, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. Big B Gems: 27/31
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    [​IMG] Hello SPers! Long time, no see (my fault, I know, life is busy). I am just getting around to playing NWN first time through, crazy enough. I have Platinum edition. I have created a halfling bard, he's great. I'm in chapter 2 of the OC. Everything was fine, until now...

    I leveled him up to level 10. Yay now I can get my first two level 4 spells right? Hmm, I think I will pick Dominate Person and Hold Monster. OK, done leveling up. OK, now I rest. OK let's check out my spells. Hey wait a minute! How come a big fat zero shows up next to my level 4 spells? I can't cast my new level 4 spells?!?!

    Now I know what you are thinking. Old Big B must have missed that part about Bards needing charisma level (10 + the level of spell you are trying to cast) in order to cast a spell. But that's just it. My bard has 17 charisma (16 originally, and +1 with a nymph's cloak).

    So what's the deal? What rule have I missed? Or is this a fluke? I drank a potion of Eagle's Splendor to get a Charisma of 22 and that didn't seem to help either. I thought maybe it was the spell school I had picked. Dominate Person and Hold Monster are enchantments I believe, but that doesn't make any sense either because I have cast charm person with this bard earlier and that worked just fine. I have a dismal 4 skill points in Spellcraft, but that shouldn't affect this should it? Anyways I jumped that number to 10 during a trial level-up and that didn't do anything to help the situation.

    My character is not diseased or stupified or anything silly like that. He is fit as a fiddle. His stats are:

    Str 10
    Dex 17
    Con 12
    Int 14
    Wis 10
    Char 17

    Help me please!
     
  2. Fabius Maximus Gems: 19/31
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    Did you rest?
     
  3. Big B Gems: 27/31
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    Sure did. Three times even just to be sure.
     
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    When you get a new spell level with a bard, you usually can pick two new spells, however, you can't cast them just yet, you have to wait untill you get to the next level before you can do that. So basicly, bards gain more spells then they can cast.
     
  5. Big B Gems: 27/31
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    Thank you FireKnight, I can live with that. I'd rather wait than have a bug.
     
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    Yeah, if you look in the bard tables at the end of the manual, you'll see that at level 10 the bard gets to cast 0 level 4 spells. which struck me like being funny; why not just say that you cannot cast a level 4 spell yet?

    but actually you can, provided your charisma is great enough to give you an extra level 4 spell; but for this you'd need a charisma of 18 (and this should be from character abilities + item modifiers - like cloaks-; potions or spells won't help, since the effects are dispelled when you start to rest).

    So, if you can get a nymph's cloack +2, you should be able to cast one level 4 spell.
     
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