Fallen Paladin and innate abilities

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I searched the forum to see if somebody had already posted this. Since I couldn't find any thread that dealt with this issue I decided to make one.

When I played BG1 I used a trick with Fallen Paladins. It exploited a bug with the innate abilities.

In my games I found out that after a Paladin gets his first innate ability (Cure Light Wounds) and then loses his status he would not lose his other abilities: detect evil and protection from evil. Being a Fallen Paladin he/she would lose the Lay on Hands ability though.

Perhaps this was corrected by a patch, I don't really know. I really miss the "Fallen Paladin" in BG2 it really looked good on the Character screen!

I just wonder if anyone used this little trick. I had fun playing a Fallen Paladin/Necromancer... good old days.

 

Fallen Paladin/Necromancer. What uberness, I'll have to try that myself sometime! Heh, y'know, I might just try a Fallen Paladin dual class in both games, simply due to the fact that Paladins get such ludicrously high starting stats pity you can't use a kit though

 

What happens if you import your Fallen Paladin/Necromancer into BGII and regain your paladin status?

This opens up some incredibly cheesey possibilities...

 

I thought if you brought over a Fallen Paladin/Ranger you would just be converted over to a fighter.

 

Yeah, I don't think you'd even get offered the paladin/ranger stronghold in the first place if you're already Fallen.

[ September 08, 2005, 16:15: Message edited by: Felinoid ]

 

Could you start off BG2 and start the strong hold quest for a Paladin/Ranger than become a fallen character class than dual to a new class and finish the quest. If you finish your quest do you lose the fallen status? If so what I would do is start off as a Ranger - Stalker build up to level 13, take on the strong hold quest, lose the Ranger status, dual to mage and finish strong hold quest to gain Ranger status back. That would be total power gaming.

 

It would, but Shadowkeeper and such other utilities don't indicate that as being a valid multiclass combination. To this end I think BioWare would have provided mechanisms against this working; that is, what I imagine would happen, once you tried to dual a Fallen Ranger over to a Mage, once you completed the dual class, the Fallen Ranger would be classed as a Fighter and you would not be redeemed by the stronghold quest. Whether this opens possibilities of acquiring two strongholds at once, though, is another story - but far less exciting.

 

I'm also pretty sure that if you dualclass a Paladin, the game simply doesn't like this and crashes.

 

@UCLAParadox:
Actually, now that you mention it, I think Rastor said the game could handle it. Somebody try this out!

 

@ Felinoid
lol. I thought Rastor said that the game couldn't.

 

I suppose that means one of us has to be wrong, but only Rastor knows for sure. Either way, it bears testing; a game crash would certainly prove it false rather quickly.

 

If you do this take the strong hold quest immediately. Than become a fallen character class and go up a few levels as a plain fighter. This would allow you to go beyond regular specialization and if you are able to pick up your fallen status you could have a Paladin or Ranger with 3+ star katanas, long swords, etc... if you wanted.

 

*sigh* I had hoped to avoid this.... but it looks like there is no way around it now...

*goes to find BG1 and BG2 cds and starts installing....*

 

Raptor you only need to install BG2 and play through as a ranger or Pally.

 

I was just as curious (if not more) about the BG1 part of this. Especially since i can never manage to play through bg2 anyways, its just to friggin boring.

 

If you convert a fallen class from BG1 to BG2 you will loose your fallen status. I have tried this before. Can you regain your fallen status in BG1? If so how?

 

Fallen status in BG1 is permanent, IIRC.

 

But SK, if you lose your fallen status, but have already dual classed, what happens?

 

Even if you dual class you still do not gain the abilities your previous class.

 

I'm confused here.

what happens if you have a paladin in baldurs gate 1, and he falls. so then you sual class him into a conjuror.

When you import this character into baldurs gate 2, and complete the paladin stronghold, your fallen status should be lifted. What happens then? also, since in baldurs gate 1 you CAN dualclass into a specialist mage, but in baldurs gate 2 you cannot, what happens to the conjuror part of the dual?