Taliban

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should it be wiped out or not?
need opinions here........
personally, i want it out of this world

 

Well, how do you define Talibans? These are individuals. There is no such things as "Talibans" or "Americans". There are just people and ideas.

Since "hate against America and the western world" isn't a person, but an idea, killing persons will not kill the idea. You'd have to wipe out the idea instead. Military can suppress ideas, it can't wipe them out.

So I think going after tose responsible would be a good idea, but sparing those not responsible an even better one...

 

And the best would be if those NOT responsible would point out the responsible instead of sheltering them.

 

For information on the Talibin check out this web page

http://www.comebackalive.com/df/dplaces/afghanis/players.htm

I think you will find it very informative

 

dont need it, i know that women are treated like dirt, thats enough to know

 

I take it your insight into this topic is only matched by your spelling of it then?

 

I asked for opinions asshole, not your spam

 

For what it's worth my opnion is that

A) Talking about wiping out groups of people because of race, creed, religion etc is ignorant in the extreme!

You may not agree with them, but has it struck you that they might not agree with you?

B) It would only fuel the conflict.

C) Supporting Afghanistan, which is now a total disaster area in terms of poverty and lack of resources to support it's own people, with humanitarian aid rather than talk about war might just show them that we are human contrary to some beliefs they hold.

You never know, might be more productive in kerbing future terrorism than showing the Afghani people the business end of our arsenals.

THERE my opinions. Happy now?

 

Rendelius, Viking, I LOVE YOU!!
Tensions are really running very high on the boards these days. Its nice to see some people around who still keep their sense and see things from different perspectives (i.e put yourselves into other's shoes) in such an awful event.

 

Keep their senses? Are you the selfproclaimed Mastermind?

Just because you like to manipulate with reason. You just move from thread to thread and spread this opinion in new and mysterious ways: Muslim=body American=Body Body=Pain. Muslim Pain=American Pain. IT IS OBVIOUS!

You say you are neutral? Take a stand for crying out loud. Instead of this verbal poking. It makes me puke.

 

i stand outside everything. i imagine myself an alien, looking at earth, and laughing. there, thats my stand.

 

A stand? Here's one to think of. Is it right to wipe out people because of what they believe?
Wheither it comes from their heart, their holy text, or a misunderstanding, surely it is better to try to figure out how to right all the wrongs in the world?
Mass murder however is an action, not a belif before anyone starts shouting. A terrible thing that has destroyed so many lives, and the after effects will set the world aflame. Those who do that should be stopped, they have no right to destroy what Gaea creates, and in doing so are furthering her pain. Like a cancer these people who do these things should be surgically removed, and we should be humans, not one side or another.
Or does this go against human nature too much?

 

Will You stand alienated and neutral Arkados when Terrorism strikes Singapore? Its a business mecca. Just as WTC. And it is easier for Terrorist to strike Another country than US now. God Bless that it wont happen!!

Will you step down from your orbital post and say that terrorism is a War-escalation and not a war-preventaiton then?

 

I will hate the killings. I will hate what has happened. i will hate the circumstances. i the happenings. But i will not hate the people. They did what they felt they had to do. As does everyone else. I will do all in my power to stop them. Just as america is doing now. I will kill them if i have to. But i will not hate them. They are as i am, human. The only reason i will kill them is to protect myself, and the things i cherish. but i will cry for them, i will forgive their souls, for it is not their souls who are at fault. they were born into their existance, they lived their lives, and they did what they had to do, as they felt they need to do, as i will, as anyone else would. If they attack me, yes, i will defend myself. but i will not hate them. I do not hate americans, i do not hate the terrorists. i hate that many people were killed, have always been killed, and will always be killed because of the way humans are. but i do not hate the humans that did it. 'tis all part of life, we are all part of earth, of the universe, of everything. and whatever happens, happens, and happens again. I'm Buddhist by the way, never told anyone of you did I? Buddhism is the middle path. True Buddhism anyway. 'Tis a peaceful relegion if there ever is one. in buddhism there is no rage. there is no justice. only the endless cycle of suffering we call life.

 

Now at last Arkados. We agree. Sorry If I have been rough. We will both fight to protect what we cherish. And Terrorism is against everything I stand for. Terrorism in the sence that it escaletes war not prevents it. The keyword for agreement seems to be "cherish". I am sorry if I have been too harsh. Life is hard sometimes.


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I have another link I find relevant to this discussion:
Yahoo News

I would add my plea that we not simply condemn all Arabians out of hand (a rage reflex). What these terrorists have done is despicable, and the fact that the Taleban is not willing to admit this saddens and disappoints me. But by no means should we assume that the Afghanistan public feels this way.

I believe that any action taken against the terrorists (most likely bin Laden's associates) is not only deserved, but well advised. I do not believe that we should go to war against Afghanistan or the Taleban except as a final resort. I think we should use any other means of pressure we can -- and we have plenty of that, with virtually the entire international community pledging us their support.

EDIT: Thanks Tal for improving readability. Now I know how as well.
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thats it, I totally withdraw myself from this shit, afhanistan sux, their belief sux but who cares anyway

viking:
a)the religion is extreme
b)wouldnt that be nice
c)why do you think they r poor eh? they cut themselves of civilisation and force their thoughts on the ppl of their country

and for the rest of the WTC topics and the like, dont care, im sick of this bullshit, i have to listen to it everyday in school

 

Has anyone looked from their point of view eh?
I am with Kevlar......This was awful but i have enough now. The Americans have done a lot worse to other poeple.
Only difference. They say they are civilised.

ps. it is not just the us either it is britain china russia germany france. They have all called them selves civilised yet ignored the pleas of 3rd world countries (who could be helped very easily) and killed hundreds of thousands of inoccent people.
Because they are so called enemies!

For god's sake this is what the western world has been asking for for years. Just thank god it wasn't more severe!

 

The problem with this is in my opinion, not how many that have been killed. The problem is they have targeted civilians and even used civilians as rockets, so-called terror.

US in the middle east have sold weapons to one of the sides(Israel I think), and bombed some countries, though they targeted MILITARY INSTALLATIONS! There might have been a techinal error in some missiles, but still the intent was to destroy military forces.
This makes a huge different, and an act of terror like this should not go unpunished. No act of terror should.

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