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"Full install" has spoiled my BG1 game on Mac. Help me, please !

Discussion in 'Baldur's Gate (Classic)' started by Cal Yhringlor, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. Cal Yhringlor Gems: 6/31
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    [​IMG] In the add-on "Dark Side of the Sword Coast", there was an very interesting note in the "Read Me" folder, that I TRY to follow, alas :

    << Special Addition!
    Baldur’s Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast
    How to Do a Full Install on Mac

    Think it sucks that GraphSim didn’t give Mac users a full install option? Irritated by constantly having to swap CDs while playing Tales of the Sword Coast? Well, do so no more. =)
    The following is a work around that allows you to do a full install of TotSC on Macintosh and avoid having to swap CDs all the time [ though, you will still have to have one of the game’s CDs in your drive to play, which one it is doesn’t matter ].
    Note that a full install of TotSC will require approximately 2.7 gigs of hard drive space.
    Finally, this should work for Baldur’s Gate [ without TotSC ] as well. However, I have not tested this.
    DSotSC Note: If you want to do a full install and you’re going to install DSotSC, follow the instructions below BEFORE installing DSotSC. >>

    [ Then the instructions were following ].
    After my game WAS NO MORE RUNING:
    :(
    Then, there is an extract of the e-mail that I have attempted to send to :

    talisman@elladoria.com

    ... but alas the adress is no more valid, [ I am furious enough of that ! ] :
    :(
    << [...] — After being following exactly the procedure of your read me to make a FULL INSTALL of the 6 CD of Baldur's Gate & Tales of the Sword coast, the game dont run anymore.

    Now I cant no more play the game at all.

    HELP me, Please !

    It's one of my favourite games, and i dont want lose it.

    When I try to start the game, a pop-up burst 5 seconds after on my screen, saying that << Tales of the Sword Coast has "inoportunely" quited, because an error of type 2 was "unexpectedly occured" >>.

    Strangely, type 2 errors are often memory problems, if I am not mistaken.

    But 1) my hard disk has yet near 2 giga octets free ; 2) my "alive" memory is 576 Mo ; 3) my virtual memory was fixed to 577 Mo, (then a total of more 1,1 Go !) ; 4) the memory given to "Tales of the Sword Coast" application is 192.000 Ko (minimum was 48.000, adviced : 68.000 Ko). 5) stock of "cache memory" given by me to my computer, for fluidity of actions, was 8192 Ko. All was well until today !

    If you want know my system, I am on an old iMac which use Mac OS9, and I had never problems to run Tales of The Sword Coast, until today ! I call for you for a quick help !

    Note : [...] . Thank you. >>

    My non-missable mail then was ending.

    — If no one of you know the solution to my problem, I a going to put it on BG1 forum, but I think that, perhaps, this forum is the best for the question.

    Help me, please !
     
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    Hmm... It might actually be helpful if you posted the exact instructions from that readme - it's difficult to say where the problem is without knowing which files have been changed.
     
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    To Gorilym :

    — Folders of DATA and MOVIES or every of the 6 CD.

    The entire procedure is below :

    << […] The following is a work around that allows you to do a full install of TotSC on Macintosh and avoid having to swap CDs all the time [though, you will still have to have one of the game’s CDs in your drive to play, which one it is doesn’t matter].
    Note that a full install of TotSC will require approximately 2.7 gigs of hard drive space.
    Finally, this should work for Baldur’s Gate [without TotSC] as well. However, I have not tested this.
    DSotSC Note: If you want to do a full install and you’re going to install DSotSC, follow the instructions below BEFORE installing DSotSC.

    1) Install Tales of the Sword Coast as you normally would.
    2) Put Baldur’s Gate Disk 1 in your CD drive.
    3) Scroll down and open the “CD1” folder.
    4) Drag the “Movies” folder to your installed “Game Data” folder.
    5) Open the “data” folder on the CD and drag its contents to the “Data”
    folder located in your installed “Game Data” folder. When asked, confirm
    that you wish to replace all of the duplicate items with the ones you are
    moving.

    6) Eject Disk 1 and put Baldur’s Gate Disk 2 in your CD drive.
    7) Open the “CD2” folder located on BG Disk 2.
    8) Open the “Movies” folder on the CD and drag its contents to the “Movies”
    folder located in your installed “Game Data” folder. When asked, confirm
    that you wish to replace all of the duplicate items with the ones you are
    moving.
    9) Open the “data” folder on the CD and drag its contents to the “Data”
    folder located in your installed “Game Data” folder. When asked, confirm
    that you wish to replace all of the duplicate items with the ones you are
    moving.

    10) Repeat steps 6-9 for BG Disks 3, 4, and 5, and the Tales of the Sword
    Coast CD

    11) Enjoy the game without CD swapping. =)

    […] talisman@elladoria.com >>

    Voilà ! ;)
     
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    OK, most likely the problem is with the baldur.ini file - the problem may be as simple as needing to edit it to recognize the new location of the game data. I don't recall off-hand the exact BG1 path formatting, but if you post the current path section of your baldur.ini here I'll see what I can do. :)
     
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    [Alias]
    HD0:=x:.\
    CD1:=x:bad:BG Disc 1\CD1\
    CD2:=x:bad:BG Disc 2\CD2\
    CD3:=x:bad:BG Disc 3\CD3\
    CD4:=x:bad:BG Disc 4\CD4\
    CD5:=x:bad:BG Disc 5\CD5\
    CD6:=x:bad:BG TotSC\CD6\

    [Program Options]
    Maximum Frame Rate=30
    Path Search Nodes=4000
    Translucent Shadows=1
    Sprite Mirror=0
    Volume Ambients=80
    Volume SFX=80
    SoftSrcKeyBltFast=0
    SoftBltFast=0
    SoftSrcKeyBlt=0
    SoftBlt=0
    SoftMirrorBlt=0
    Strref On=0
    BitsPerPixel=32
    Gamma Correction=2
    Volume Movie=70
    Volume Voices=70
    Screen Position X=99
    Screen Position Y=94
    Volume Music=50
    Tooltips=20
    Full Screen=1
    Brightness Correction=16

    [GameSpy]
    Region=0

    [Config]
    CacheSize=0

    [Multiplayer]
    TCP/IP Address=192.168.0.1
    Player Name=Francois
    Session Password=
    Restrict Stores=0
    Default Permissions=10111101
    Import Character=7
    Session Name=TalesOfTheSwordCoastNiveaux7a10

    [Game Options]
    Footsteps=1
    Bored Timeout=3000
    Always Dither=1
    Tutorial State=1
    Attack Sounds=1
    Quick Item Mapping=1
    Environmental Audio=1
    Command Sounds Frequency=2
    Infravision=1
    Effect Text Level=63
    Locator Feedback Level=5
    Subtitles=1
    Inventory Pause Warning=1
    Selection Sounds Frequency=2
    Auto Pause State=157
    GUI Feedback Level=5
    Mouse Scroll Speed=10
    Keyboard Scroll Speed=18
    Difficulty Level=3
    Weather=0

    [Macintosh Options]
    Skip All Movies At Once=1
    Enable Multiplayer Start=1
    Walk Acceleration=1
    Walk Acceleration Fix=0

    [MissionPack]
    HardDrive=1

    [Movies
    REST=1
    DEATHAND=1
    WRECK=1
    DURLAG=1
    BGSUNSET=1
    BGSUNRIS=1
    BEREGOST=1
    NASHKELL=1
    GNOLL=1
    CAMP=1
    WYVERN=1
    MINEFLOD=1
    BGENTER=1
    SEWER=1
    IRONTHRN=1
    ENDMOVIE=1
    GRAPHSIM=1
    BG4LOGO=1
    TSRLOGO=1
    BILOGO=1
    INFELOGO=1
    ROSETTA=1
    INTRO=1
    FRARMINN=1
    CNDLKEEP=1
    PALACE=1

    [Movies]
    REST=1
    DEATHAND=1
    WRECK=1
    DURLAG=1
    BGSUNSET=1
    BGSUNRIS=1
    BEREGOST=1
    NASHKELL=1
    GNOLL=1
    CAMP=1
    WYVERN=1
    MINEFLOD=1
    BGENTER=1
    SEWER=1
    IRONTHRN=1
    ENDMOVIE=1
    GRAPHSIM=1
    BG4LOGO=1
    TSRLOGO=1
    BILOGO=1
    INFELOGO=1
    ROSETTA=1
    INTRO=1
    FRARMINN=1
    CNDLKEEP=1
    PALACE=1
    DUNGEON=1
     
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    Some things to try: (make a backup of the baldur.ini first!)

    Cache size being set to 0 is perhaps strange, but it shouldn't be causing crashes - just in case, try setting it to 200 or thereabouts.

    If you still get the same error, try replacing

    Code:
    HD0:=x:.\
    CD1:=x:\BG Disc 1\CD1\
    CD2:=x:\BG Disc 2\CD2\
    CD3:=x:\BG Disc 3\CD3\
    CD4:=x:\BG Disc 4\CD4\
    CD5:=x:\BG Disc 5\CD5\
    CD6:=x:\BG TotSC\CD6\
    with

    Code:
    HD0:=x:.\
    CD1:=x:.\
    CD2:=x:.\
    CD3:=x:.\
    CD4:=x:.\
    CD5:=x:.\
    CD6:=x:.\
    If it still doesn't start up, try removing the lines that begin with CD1-CD6. If that doesn't work, tell me this: how many files are in the data folder, and how much space does that folder occupy?

    Come to think of it, the virtually duplicate Movie listings look odd as well. Another thing to try would be to remove the first section beginning with [Movies.

    [ October 28, 2006, 13:27: Message edited by: Gorilym ]
     
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    — None of the suggested modifications works, alas :bad:

    [ None, including removing the first duplicate Movies listing, and neither my own idea about cache size (zero is probably only a code, here) :( ].

    • Now there are the others informations that you want :
    "Data" folder :
    Size : 2,18 Go, for exactly 2.347.653.218 octets
    Number of elements (files) : 152

    • I also give you the same infos for the only other folder which was weighted in the so-calling "Full install":

    "Movies" folder :
    Size : 260,5 Mo, for exactly 273.108. 062 octets
    Number of elements (files) : 36 (in .mov, or .bif).

    I try to keep hope ... :)
     
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    Hmmm... The total figure for data is interesting. I have an archived complete BG1 data folder, and it's total size is 2.352.425.630 - a markedly different number (the figure for the movies folder is identical to yours). However, if you're using a french version of the game, that may be the sole reason for the difference. In any case, you'll most likely have to reinstall BG1 at this point. :( (make sure to backup any saved games you want to keep etc.)

    Instead of making a full install manually, I recommend using this program - it is mainly of use with BG1Tutu conversions, but it has a 'make full install' feature that works with regular BG1 as well.
     
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    I dont situate wity precision where is your "full install feature" for "regular BG1" in the site you show to me, and I am afraid to infect my natural Tales of the Sword Coast with the "tutu" system, (you know that I have very little love for it).

    ... Besides, perhaps it is not YET the time to abandon our tries with the correction of the MANUAL Full Install :
    I am sure that it is only a silly minor point, which blockade the start of the game ! :sosad:

    WHY this pop-up of "Error Type 2" from my iMac, THAT IS the question, I think ! ...

    I agree with you on that point : it is probably a minor change to make in the Baldur.ini listing. But WHAT change ?!

    — Reflect a last time to that, Gorilym, please (and all the OTHERS "Informatic Masters" can ALSO make suggestions, it is not forbidden !).

    New thanks, again. :)

    Post-Scriptum : My original Baldur'Gate game was played in English. To my pleasant surprise, the extension Tales of Sword Coast has modified the entire game to be played in French ! The folders in CD6 must be in priority statute for language when I installed them, a long time ago. [ By the way, for further potential installs, dont forget I am in European zone ].
    For the Full Install I have tried, is it possible to have had a conflict beetween new files of CD 1 to 5 (initially not thought by creators to ever be installed !) and new files of CD 6 (same remark, + french adaptation) ???
     
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    The problem with this error message is that like most pre-OS X error messages - it's highly generic. Type 2 is memory-related yes, but there's no real way of narrowing down what's causing it. Error messages like this can be described as the system saying: "well, something went wrong but I don't know what exactly - so here's a cryptic message for you to look at" :xx:

    [We are in the same time zone, so no worries there.] :)

    The fact that you are using a French TotSC with an English BG may indeed be the actual root of the problem - copying all the files from the CDs would necessarily have involved some overwriting, and an incompatibility may have been introduced by files from the French expansion overwriting files from the English base game. This would indeed also explain the difference in total size. Again, at this point I see little recourse but to reinstall from the CDs. :( If it were me, I'd avoid trying to assemble a "full install" - when you're combining different language editions, it's unfortunately bound to be troublesome.
     
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    Unless this is some sort of Mac-specific thing, I think that's your problem right there. The HD0 line should be pointing to the folder that BG is installed in. (Typically "C:bad:Program Files\Black Isle\Baldur's Gate" for a PC, but I don't know how the Mac version does it.)
     
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    The Mac baldur.ini uses relative rather than absolute paths - which is probably a Mac-specific thing. Not that it would hurt to try it, though.
     
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    [​IMG] — For all "Mac Masters", or persons very familiar with Apple systems, mainly before Mac Os X , ( "classic" systems ), I am throwing a call for HELP :
    :help:
    ... Since, in this stupid << Full Install >>, the TWO ONLY FOLDERS which were modified AND INCREASED in number were the folders MOVIES and DATA, there is a instant conclusion :
    • The only suspect list of items in the folder "Movies" is easily removable ;
    • If we try to leave apart, temporily, the idea of a modification in the "Baldur.ini" text, THEN :

    ... remain ONE solution :
    :idea:
    ... think that it is in the DATA folder that an hidden DUPLICATION or REDUNDANCE (not automatically in same name files !) cause a struggle beetwen two files (or several pairs of two ! ), because of a two-languages conflict, or other cause.
    :hmm:
    What are these files ?
    Since they are only 152, then there is a listing of the Data Folder :

    AREA000A.bif
    AREA000B.bif
    AREA000C.bif
    AREA000D.bif
    AREA000E.bif
    AREA000F.bif
    AREA000G.bif
    AREA000H.bif
    AREA0100.bif
    AREA010A.bif
    AREA010B.bif
    AREA0200.bif
    AREA020A.bif
    AREA020B.bif
    AREA0300.bif
    AREA030A.bif
    AREA030B.bif
    AREA0400.bif
    AREA040X.bif
    AREA0500.bif
    AREA050A.bif
    AREA050B.bif
    AREA050C.bif
    AREA050D.bif
    AREA0600.bif
    AREA060A.bif
    AREA0700.bif
    AREA070A.bif
    AREA0800.bif
    AREA080A.bif
    AREA080B.bif
    AREA0900.bif
    AREA090X.bif
    AREA1000.bif
    AREA100A.bif
    AREA1100.bif
    AREA110A.bif
    AREA110B.bif
    AREA110C.bif
    AREA1200.bif
    AREA120A.bif
    AREA120B.bif
    AREA1300.bif
    AREA130A.bif
    AREA1400.bif
    AREA140A.bif
    AREA140B.bif
    AREA150A.bif
    AREA1600.bif
    AREA160X.bif
    AREA1700.bif
    AREA1800.bif
    AREA180a.bif
    AREA180b.bif
    AREA180c.bif
    AREA180D.bif
    AREA180E.bif
    AREA1900.bif
    AREA190X.bif
    AREA2000.bif
    AREA200A.bif
    AREA200B.bif
    AREA2100.bif
    AREA210X.bif
    AREA2200.bif
    AREA220X.bif
    AREA2300.bif
    AREA230A.bif
    AREA230b.bif
    AREA2400.bif
    AREA2600.BIF
    AREA260A.BIF
    AREA260b.bif
    AREA260c.bif
    AREA2700.BIF
    AREA2800.BIF
    AREA2900.bif
    AREA3000.bif
    AREA3100.bif
    AREA3200.bif
    AREA320X.bif
    AREA3300.bif
    AREA330a.bif
    AREA330b.bif
    AREA330c.bif
    AREA330d.bif
    AREA3400.bif
    AREA340X.bif
    AREA3500.bif
    AREA3600.bif
    AREA360X.bif
    AREA3700.bif
    AREA3800.bif
    AREA380X.bif
    AREA3900.bif
    AREA390X.bif
    AREA4000.bif
    AREA400X.bif
    AREA4100.bif
    AREA410X.bif
    AREA4200.bif
    AREA420X.bif
    AREA4300.bif
    AREA4400.bif
    AREA440X.bif
    AREA4500.bif
    AREA450X.bif
    AREA4600.bif
    AREA4700.bif
    AREA470X.bif
    AREA4800.bif
    AREA480X.bif
    AREA4900.bif
    AREA490X.bif
    AREA5000.bif
    AREA500X.bif
    AREA5100.bif
    AREA510X.bif
    AREA5200.bif
    AREA520X.bif
    AREA5300.bif
    AREA5400.bif
    AREA540a.bif
    AREA540b.bif
    AREA540c.bif
    AREA540d.bif
    AREA5500.bif
    AREA550X.bif
    Areas.bif
    ARMISC.bif
    CHAANIM.bif
    CHASound.bif
    CREAnim.bif
    CREATURE.bif
    CRESound.bif
    DEFAULT.bif
    Dialog.bif
    EFFECTS.bif
    ExArMaps.bif
    ExPAreas.bif
    GUI.bif
    ITEMS.bif
    MPCREANM.bif
    MPGUI.bif
    MPSounds.bif
    NPCSound.bif
    OBJANIM.bif
    RndEncnt.bif
    scripts.bif
    SFXSound.bif
    Spells.bif
    AREA1500.bif

    The classification is, there, alphabetic.
    If you find anything, :) , mmm, then ...
    Tell us here WHICH ONES are the pairs of conflicting files, thanks ! :cool:
     
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