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Time of Troubles

Discussion in 'Dungeons & Dragons + Other RPGs' started by Klorox, Nov 15, 2006.

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    The "Time of Troubles" marks the time where in the Forgotten Realms world changed from 1st Edition to 2nd Edition (Bhaal is killed, and all Assassins are killed as well, ect.).

    Anyway, where can I find evidence of this? Is it in any gaming books? TIA
     
    Klorox, Nov 15, 2006
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    The Avatar series of books from wizards of the coast. The first three books are on the Time of Troubles and the next two are events that take place afterwards.
     
    The Magister, Nov 16, 2006
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    Crap, so it's never in any gaming books? I'd love to be able to look up a quote very similar to what I've posted above.
     
    Klorox, Nov 16, 2006
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    It's described in FRCS as well, of course... and probably a few other manuals. It was a lot more detailed in the 2e FR manuals than in the 3e ones though, I heard.
     
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    Tal, could you possibly point me towards a page? I'm having a lot of trouble finding it.

    TIA
     
    Klorox, Nov 19, 2006
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    Sorry, don't have it handy... but as far as I know, there's not that much about it in FRCS.
     
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    I do not recal seeing any specific notes about time of troubles, and coule not refer you directlly to a single book. I have lots of FR books, and won't claim to have read them all. But mostly references are mentioned in many books "here and there" and not a specific part or book.

    If you want a specific book to look into, i would have to say either the Campaign Setting books for 2E or 3E as far as i have seen at least. Read both a few times, and they contain a bit more information on the Time of Troubles than most other books.

    I never heard that Time of Troubles marked the "shift" to AD&D 2E though.
     
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    Klorox,
    In the back of FRCS, you can find an index (page 319).
    The Time of Troubles is best described at p.264.

    There's info about who was battling who, but I doubt you'll find what you search for. It's not a very interesting read, either.

    [ November 23, 2006, 15:39: Message edited by: Master of Nuhn ]
     
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    Read the Cyrinishad version in Prince of Lies at the bookstore. If you flip through the text it's contained in 2 or 3-page passages in italics. ;)

    But seriously, just read the Avatar series. It's not good writing (in fact, in some ways it reads like the authors copied right out of the various handbooks and tried to put a story to it), but it goes quickly and it's extremely relevant to the setting as a whole.

    You could also check out Faiths and Pantheons or the previous FR deity handbook and read the entries on Bane, Cyric, Kelemvor, and Mystra, etc. They're bound to have some info.

    As for an official quote that explains how rule changes from one edition to the next can be explained by events in the game world, good luck. The handbooks IMO don't usually self-examine their own "real world" history.
     
    Berksmasher, Jan 10, 2007
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    Yes, it was definitely the transition from 1st to 2nd edition AD&D. Furthermore, there were adventure modules corresponding to each of the three books in the Avatar trilogy. I had them but they were thrown out years ago with the rest of my D&D books.
     
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