1. SPS Accounts:
    Do you find yourself coming back time after time? Do you appreciate the ongoing hard work to keep this community focused and successful in its mission? Please consider supporting us by upgrading to an SPS Account. Besides the warm and fuzzy feeling that comes from supporting a good cause, you'll also get a significant number of ever-expanding perks and benefits on the site and the forums. Click here to find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
You are currently viewing Boards o' Magick as a guest, but you can register an account here. Registration is fast, easy and free. Once registered you will have access to search the forums, create and respond to threads, PM other members, upload screenshots and access many other features unavailable to guests.

BoM cultivates a friendly and welcoming atmosphere. We have been aiming for quality over quantity with our forums from their inception, and believe that this distinction is truly tangible and valued by our members. We'd love to have you join us today!

(If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you've forgotten your username or password, click here.)

Best Armor/Items for a Thief (Assassin)

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by LeslieShrum, Oct 30, 2006.

  1. LeslieShrum Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2004
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    [​IMG] I was just wondering what the best equipment for a thief would be so that they can still use thier abilities, and be relatively protected. Assuming You can wear multiple protective items, and thieving abilities are all fairly even (Average of 195)
    I tend to use my theif for sneak attacks and trapfinding/lockpicking.

    Thanks for the input!
    Leslie
     
  2. kuemper Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2005
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    8
    My thieves are usually multiclassed, so I don't know if these will work with a plain thief.

    - white dragon scale armor
    - boots of speed
    - amulet of the master harper
    - ring of gaxx
    - vhalior's helm or rose ioun stone
     
  3. Decados

    Decados The Chosen One

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    2,428
    Media:
    4
    Likes Received:
    18
    In addition to what kuemper mentioned, the Cloak of Non-Detection is also an important item.

    Gauntlets mainly depending on what you have spare. Perhaps the Blessed Bracers for extra HP.

    The Belt of Inertial Barrier would help prtoect you, though you may wish to consider a Girdle of Strength. Even the Girdle of Hill Giant Strength will increase the damage done by a thief's backstab quite considerably.

    Naturally, the Staff of the Ram is a popular choice for backstabbing with due to its large damage potential.
     
  4. Felinoid

    Felinoid Who did the what now?

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2005
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    6
    Gender:
    Male
    White dragon scale is classed as chain armor, so I don't think it won't be usable by a plain thief. Black dragon scale (available much earlier, at that) or one of the stealth-boosting leathers will be what you want for your assassin.
     
  5. Trellheim Gems: 22/31
    Latest gem: Sphene


    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,469
    Media:
    5
    Likes Received:
    23
    White dragon scale IS usable by thief, it's only (shown) restricted class is mage.

    If your planning to play SoA first: get aegers hide then shadow dragon scale, white dragon later or in ToB
     
  6. Felinoid

    Felinoid Who did the what now?

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2005
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    6
    Gender:
    Male
    Hmph. Turns out the white dragon scale is only ununsable by Mages and Mage/Thieves. And what's worse, neither it nor Aeger's Hide have the appropriate thieving skill penalties for armors of their type or disable thieving abilities. :rolleyes:

    Shadow dragon scale is two points of AC better than Aeger's Hide, but you have to balance that against the protection from confusion that the latter gives.
     
  7. Bombur

    Bombur I'm always last and I don't like it

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    534
    Likes Received:
    0
    Shadow dragon scale and Aeger's hide are also different in that Aeger's hide is typed as leather armor. Aeger's hide offers less protection than other armors of a different type, even at the same class.

    White Dragon Scale will give you the best armor class without compromising your thieving skills.

    Gargoyle boots can also help a bit, giving you two stoneskins per day (skins, not spells).

    By the time you've got abilities at 195, you should have Use Any Item. So, you might consider a good shield, either focusing on boosting AC or on special protections (e.g., reflection shield or the shield of harmony). And don't forget the scrolls you can use with that (stoneskin, protection from magic weapons, etc.).
     
  8. LeslieShrum Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2004
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    [​IMG] Thanks for all the input. I have been playing for a while now, and I am at level 28. I forget about the use any item feat... Wish that was in Icewind Dale...

    Thanks
    Leslie
     
  9. Klorox

    Klorox Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,980
    Likes Received:
    7
    I'd recommend using the said Shield of Harmony or Crom Faeyr as an off-hand weapon (even if you can only place * in two weapon fighting, the STR bonus from CF leaves you ahead of the game... and those are some NASTY backstabs you'll be dishing out).
     
  10. LeslieShrum Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2004
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    Wow... That reminds me... I CAN use other weapons besides daggers;)

    I am so used to running the same weapons for all my characters/classes that I forget to change things up a bit from time to time
     
  11. Silverstar Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    4,050
    Likes Received:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    ^Remember that you can only backstab with thief weapons. You can not backstab with Crom Faeyr or Carsomyr or Staff of Magi. (backstabbing with SoM could be so cool, and horribly unbalancing as well!)

    Though you can put Crom Faeyr to your left hand to boost your STR to god-like scores, and if you have a nice little thief weapon on your main hand you can cause a lot of pain with that backstab. Hopefully, you will attack with your main hand first...
     
  12. T2Bruno

    T2Bruno The only source of knowledge is experience Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2004
    Messages:
    9,776
    Media:
    15
    Likes Received:
    440
    Gender:
    Male
    Depends on how you want to play your character. For example, do you dual? do you want to have a chance toe-to-toe, or would you rather run away?

    Grandmasters Armor (who cares about low AC -- you're in stealth mode and very fast)
    Gargoyle Boots (allws you to take that first blow or two)
    Cloak of Non-Detection (or Montolio's Cloak)
    Bracers of Blinding Strike (or Tsu-Zan's Bracers or Gauntlets of Extraordinary Specialization)
    Girdle of Inertial Barrier (you should already have at least a strength of 19 or 20)
    Mala's Soul Stone (or Wong Fei's Ioun Stone or Thieves Hood)
    Ring of Gaxx and Ring of Earth Control (keep all the Rings of Invisibility, Improved Invisibility, and Air Control you can find).

    Weapons:
    If you dual, the Scarlett Ninja-To is a must have. Optionally, use items which give boosts/immunities such as The Equalizer, Crom Faeyr or Angurvadel.

    Good primary hand weapons are: Short Sword of Mask, Cutthroat, Blackrazor, Hindo's Doom, and Celestial Fury. Gnasher is a very good weapon against mages.

    You should consider staves as a weapon -- Staff of the Ram give the best backstabs of any weapon in the unmodded game.
     
  13. LeslieShrum Gems: 2/31
    Latest gem: Fire Agate


    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2004
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    I prefer to take advantage of backstab damage at first, and then to kick butt! That is why I was wanting a way to keep myself protected. I don't like to run away.
     
  14. Klorox

    Klorox Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    2,980
    Likes Received:
    7
    Don't you always?
     
  15. Felinoid

    Felinoid Who did the what now?

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2005
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    6
    Gender:
    Male
    A-yup.
     
  16. Silverstar Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    4,050
    Likes Received:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    If you go invisible in the middle of your personal combat round (gulp a potion or twist a ring or cast a spell or use a scroll or whatever) and then attack, you risk not hitting with your main hand, am I right?
     
  17. ister Gems: 4/31
    Latest gem: Sunstone


    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2006
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    0
    Don't all those things (using an item, casting a spell, drinking a potion) reset the combat round? So that you lose the extra attacks from the round you were in, but will attack first with your main hand.
     
  18. Silverstar Gems: 31/31
    Latest gem: Rogue Stone


    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    4,050
    Likes Received:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't really know. Those things have never been too spesific. I focus mainly on spell casting and the like though. Perhaps, a melee-combat guru can illuminate us all?
     
  19. Shaitan

    Shaitan Always forgive your enemies; it annoys them so

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2005
    Messages:
    1,323
    Likes Received:
    5
    AFAIK Yes.
    Otherwise ask at G3
     
Sorcerer's Place is a project run entirely by fans and for fans. Maintaining Sorcerer's Place and a stable environment for all our hosted sites requires a substantial amount of our time and funds on a regular basis, so please consider supporting us to keep the site up & running smoothly. Thank you!

Sorcerers.net is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to products on amazon.com, amazon.ca and amazon.co.uk. Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.