CLUAConsole problems when trying to tweak romance variables?

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Hello everyone,

it came to my attention quite late in the game (in the 6th chapter, to be precise) that your character could actually have a meaningful romance with certain NPCs. I did notice some play at times, between me and Jaheira, but I never knew the subplot was so immensely long and time consuming. Well, I went through the game rather fast up until I got out of the underdark. The problem is, I suppose I used the 'pause' key too much and didn't allow the real-time dependant romance dialogues to run their proper course, only handling a few of them before going to Brynnlaw on the ship (as I understand, the whole romance plot is put on hold until you emerge back out through the underdark, and even then you can only finish it íf you don't progress the main plot past the 6th chapter). Well, since the dialogues that progress the romance plot occur at intervals of 30 minutes worth of real time and I still have plenty of them to go through before I reach the end of the whole ordeal, I'm starting to get a little impatient. I want to finish the romantic plot before I progress on to the final chapter of the game, and install ToB.
I've tried to leave the game running while I'm gone, occasionally checking back to see if a new romance dialogue has occurred, but this is way too time consuming. So, I decided to use the CLUAConsole to try and force the dialogues to appear in rapid succession.
Something is wrong here, though. I'm typing all the commands correctly, but it seems like they have no effect- nothing happens, even though the next romance dialogue is supposed to present itself. The console DOES work when I'm attempting to check the variables that show where I'm at in the "LoveTalk" scale (I'm currently at 52, and 70, if I recall correctly, is supposed to be where the plot comes to an end). However, as I said, the command that is supposed to force the LoveTalk variable forward doesn't seem to do anything, even though I'm obviously typing it correct.

Any ideas? I hope I won't have to wait through the plot... since that would involve leaving the game running on for days upon days.

 

Sounds like you are using the wrong code. What exactly are you typing in?

 

This is the only code that seems to work:
CLUAConsole:GetGlobal("LoveTalk","LOCALS")
That code shows how far the lovetalk has progressed when you hold the mouse pointer over the character you're romancing. The others don't seem to do anything, yet I don't get an error message, either, which normally happens if I type in the wrong code.
Here's the one that is supposed to force the next romance dialogue:
CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("JaheiraRomance","GLOBAL",1)
Nothing happens when I type in that code.

Also, I made a backup save before starting to tinker with the codes, HOWEVER, even the backup save has seemingly gone corrupt in that the same dialogue keeps on reappearing now, and the lovetalk variable doesn't change when I check it with the code I mentioned previously. This never happened up until I started to experiment with the codes, but now the romance is stuck in a loop, with the same dialogue repeating itself. The delay timer between the dialogues is normal, though. It's just that the dialogues don't progress forward- the one where Jaheira asks me if I enjoyed the last battle we were in keeps on coming back.
I wonder if this is just a coincidence, or because I have messed around with the romance variables and inadvertently screwed things up. What's odd is it also happens in my backup save, where I hadn't touched the CLUAConsole yet.

Anyway, if I'm stuck now, I suppose I'll have to use the console to progress on. Too bad it doesn't seem to work...

 

The first code is simply to get a value so will not change anything. The second one will not change anything either as that is the default value. The code you need is

CLUAConsole:AdvanceRealTime(3000)

Repeat it as much as neccessary but be warned it forwards ALL real timers. Romance/quests, stuff like that.

 

Thanks, 8people! It looks like the romance guide I downloaded from here had incorrect codes in it (at least the second one). I'll try your code and see if it will help. I don't have any other real time quests at hand as far as I'm aware, so it shouldn't be a problem.

 

This is a really common problem dry, there is a problem with the whole Jaheira romance looping over the last battle quest. It's very common, but not if you have BG2 installed correctly.

What patches do you have installed ? Do you have the official one, and also the fixpack that you can find on this site ? Cos you do need both, the official patch doesn't fix the Jaheira romance problem. As for your comment about ToB, well, it doesnt hurt to install that from the beginning, it doesn't create any hiccups and you do have smooth sailing.

As a note on patches though, the official patch plus the fix pack, are specific for what you have installed. That is there are two different fix packs, and also two different official patches, one for when you have ToB and one where you don't, you should make sure you have the right patches.

Also, if you do install just the SoA patches, you will need to uninstall completely I believe install ToB then install the patches for that version.

 

Hmmm... I tried the code you suggested, and it didn't seem to do anything, either. There was no error message, though.

-EDIT-

Jechor, I only have the official patch installed. I'll have to look into the fixpack you mentioned (if I can find it here somewhere! ). Thanks for the info on ToB, btw. I'm always extremely skeptical about these things, so it's good to know I can safely install it without any interference for the remainder of the SoA portion of the game. I'll also remember to uninstall the whole game and reinstall it with ToB and the accompanying patches.

[ April 22, 2005, 14:09: Message edited by: dry as dust ]

 

You'll probably have to change the number to something higher, just add a couple of 0s to the end. It speeds it up in seconds.

[edit] My apologies, I missed the part where he mentioned the dialogue loop.

I have a code for changing the LoveTalk if the patches don't work, however

[ April 22, 2005, 15:05: Message edited by: 8people ]

 

8people I'm sorry but if you read my post, its actually a bug, and not a lot of what you're suggesting is likely to work. Only the patches will fix his loop. Only way clua will work is if he updates it constantly and has exact lines of want to put in every time a dialog comes up.

 

Alrighty... so, now I've uninstalled SoA and reinstalled it along with ToB and the official ToB patch from the Bioware site . Now all that is left is to install the fixpack from this site and see what happens. I only have one problem: I can't find a ToB specific fixpack anywhere on this site (I did find an SoA only fixpack, though). Could someone post a link?

I'll still probably want to rush the romance with the CLUAConsole, though...

 

Try these, I'm assuming you have the bg2tob_26498 patch installed now. The other two you want are these:

http://members.dodo.com.au/~jakgrant/BG2ThroneOfBhaalFixPack112.exe

http://members.dodo.com.au/~jakgrant/BG2BonusCDMerchants.zip

First one is the fixpack, the second is the merchants, I always install the merchants second. It probably doesn't matter the order.

If you still have problems, do a search on posts by a guy on here called Extreme or look for his romancing guide in the downloads section, you should be able to fix the loop problem, I've only had it once, but I don't think I've ever had it since I've had all the up to date patches.

 

Thanks a lot for the help, Jechor and 8people!

-EDIT-

Just one more stupid question: what's up with the CLUA codes? They don't do anything, at least not the romance related ones (with the exception of the code that shows you where you are in the lovetalk scale if you hold the mouse pointer over Jaheira). What's odd is the item summoning codes etc seem to be working just fine.

[ April 22, 2005, 21:12: Message edited by: dry as dust ]

 

They do work. They just have to be used in the right situations. Sometimes you don't see the immediate affects of a code that has been changed. If you are going by the codes you were using originally then they wouldn't have changed anything about your situation.

 

The thing is, the one you posted that is supposed to advance real time doesn't seem to do anything, either. You'd expect Jaheira to start chatting again, but she doesn't- you still need to wait for the half an hour intervals to run their course.

 

That's annoying, it's never failed me before. It may be that you have reached a point in the romance where you require a certain event or to rest, the timer won't change that.

Either that or you need to up the number, 3000 is equivalent to five minutes afterall

 

DAMN IT!! I let the game run just to see what the next romance dialogue would be like, and it's still looping, even after the painstaking uninstall/reinstall/patch/fixpack process! This is really starting to wear my patience thin!

 

Remember you got the LT rating by selecting Jaheira? If the LT is still 52 then try:
CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("LoveTalk","LOCALS",54)
See if that helps at all, if not I'm afraid I won't be able to help enymore. It may be that the patches will only work on new games.

 

dry, try this guide:

http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/RomancingGuide.zip

It may help, other than that look up Extremist's profile on here or
http://www.sorcerers.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00001240
and look at his posts.

More precisely, go to this post and look for his comments:
http://www.sorcerers.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/6076.html#000008

In summary though, and this is just a copy and paste of what he suggests given you're most likely stuck on Love Talk 52:

Use this command:
CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("Lovetalk","LOCALS",57)
while your mousepointer is over Jaheira.

Then hit rest button.

Don't worry for a few dialogs you'll miss - they are not of any importance nor hold consequences of "romance-broken" type.

Hopefully all this will fix your probs.

 

Well I'll be damned... I set the lovetalk to 57, and I finally got a new dialogue out of her! Thanks again for both of your assistance- you've been of great help. Now, hopefully the romance will continue as it should (at this point, I don't even care if I have to leave the computer running to make progress- I'm just glad I got this problem handled).