Massive BG2 game

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It has been a while since I have played BG2/TOB, and I am going for a BIG game with as many mods as possible. Basically I am starting a multiplayer with three pre-made characters.

1) tank: paladin, kensai or barbarian (open to other options, tell me what you think)
2) missile character/ backup tank. Not sure of going a basic fighter or archer (open to new ideas/advise on this one)
3) Spell casting character. Magic user/cleric or cleric/ranger (never played either). Again any constructive advice would be great.

I am looking for pros and cons on the above options with people’s game play feedback.

I have many saved games from BG to import but I am not sure if I want to do this or just go with new characters. (again all advise will be helpful).

I am going to pick up (as many) NPCs as I can. Looking for characters that help fill out the blanks in my party (thieves, bards etc.). Also looking for good banter, NPC quests and romances if possible.

The list of mods I am trying to install are:

NiGHTMARE's Infinity Engine Junk
TDD kit remover - when
The Forgotten Children
Nalia Romance
Exnem's Addon
The Tortured Soul
CBisson's Familiar Pack
Masamune Sword Mini-mini-quest by ShadowDaemon
Kelsey
Chloe
Tashia
Solaufein
Valen
Goo
Silverstar
Vanim
Xan
Kiara-Zaiya
Horace
Hubelpot
Mike
Azrael
Neh'taniel
Ghareth
Hessa
Alassa
Anishai
Ninafer
Cassius
NPC Flirt Packs
Banter Packs
Getting Rid of Anomen (Kelsey addon)
Cloakwood Squares
NPC Kit Pack
sporeboys! Alternate Female NPC Portraits
JPS' Portrait Collection
Blonde Imoen
Alternate BG2 NPCs (changes the class of several Bioware NPCs)
Totemic Cernd
Imoen Romance
Unfinished Business
Turnip Golem Encounter
Improved Oasis II
Check the Bodies
Redemption (Ascension addon)
Deeper Shadows of Amn
Ajoc's MiniMod
Planar Sphere Mod
Planar Sphere Return Mod
Mordan's Christmas Mod
Iron Modder 1 Pack (2003)
Iron Modder 2 Pack (2004)
Iron Modder 3 Pack
Iron Modder 4 Pack
Iron Modder 5 Pack
Iron Modder 6 Pack
Iron Modder 7 Pack
Iron Modder 8 Pack
Iron Modder 9 Pack
Dungeon-Be-Gone
Ashes of Embers
Oversight
Virtue
Cal-Culator
Rogue Rebalancing Pack
Ease-of-Use
High Level HLA Fix
King Dutka's Disarm Trap Spell
Item Upgrade
Cespenar Audio for Weimer's Item Upgrade Mod
Underrepresented Items
Improved Horns of Valhalla
Freedom's Reign/Reign of Virtue (WeiDU)
Ruad
The Unusual Oddities Shop
Rastor's Item Pack
Dark Ritual
The Magnificent Magic Store
MunchMod
SP Items
Cleric Remix
Divine Remix
PnP Celestial
Turnabout
The Longer Road
Refinements
G3's BG2 Tweaks
The Bigg's Tweaks
Simding0's Experience Fixer
Yacomo's World Map

These will be installed with the bid picture mod (all the above are meant to be compatible with BP but god help me trying to get them working together). All advise on this would be great (I have looked at the spellhold forum for this but I am not sure if this helps or hinders me).

I am thinking of starting playing in November (it will take me that long to figure out the above mods).

I have completed BG2/TOB three times but am not expect in the mechanics (or quests) of the game.

All advice would be greatly appreciated and I would like to do a running commentary on my game (with posts on problems, bugs, new stuff- from mods and anything else that takes my fancy).

This will be a long term project since it took me two years to complete BG2/TOB the first time since I will be playing it only a couple of hours a week.

Again all help will be read and taken on board.

 

I'm not much of a modder myself, but I can't tell you how many times I've read on these boards and others like it how too many mods screw each other up.

 

No way in hell will all of those mods be comptable with each other mate. I have about a half of tht list installed and am constanly having resolve conflictsbetween the mods.

 

This is good feed back, but can you tell me, in your experience what works and what does not.

 

For a start, if any clerical/dridic mods are added with the divine remix, something will generally bite you on the ass as I fond out recently with the Auramaster druid.

 

Well, I have one question...what are you going to do with all those NPCs?

I counted at least 21 NPC mods! Are you going to take each one along just long enough to get their quest and then dump them for another?

And why is Saerilith missing from the list!?!?!

I don't mean to jinx you, but I'm betting that you're going to have major bugs/incompatibilities. But good luck anyway.

 

As stated in the ReadMe, divine kit mods will work fine with Divine Remix provided Divine Remix is installed after them.

 

If you don't reload when an NPC gets chunked and diced it could be interesting to have a few extras...

I have a few mods installed -not as many as you are planning to use- and I still can play the game:

EASE OF USE
NPC_TWEAK
G3TWEAKS
NPCKIT
SPSTUFF
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
CROSSMOD BANTER
SPELL50
TACTICS
ASCENSION
EDWINROMANCE
BANTERPACK
HUBELPOT
VALEN
SOLAUFEIN
KELSEY
KETO
D0QUESTPACK
D0TWEAK
DUNGEONBEGONE
TURNABOUT
ARCANEARCHER
SAERILETH
YASRAENA
KIDO
ARIENA
OVERSIGHT
MINSCKIT
CRUSADE
WIKAEDE
WILLY BRUCE
TSUJATHA
HELLION
FADE
NATURALSELECTION
WEAVER
ASHESOFEMBERS
XAN
KIVAN

I can no longer play that game without the Shut Up "You Must Gather Your Party Before Venturing Forth" from Ease of Use. I don't have all the components from all these mods installed but the game is playable (and fun).
I guess I didn't realize how many mods I have installed before trying to list them all -I may have forgotten one or two...

 

I notice you've got Cleric and divine Remix on your list. Cleric Remix is the forerunner to DR, and DR contains everything CR has.

 

Well I have more mods in my list, and they work fine, most of the time. If you obey installation order they should work fine, but you can never be sure.

 

AahhAHAHAHAHAH SILVERSTAR HAS MORE!!!!

Omg that's crazy Silver ...

 

I feel I must ask you the simple question 'Why?' From the number of mods, you seem to be taking many for the sake of having lots of mods, rather than them adding all that much to your game. You won't use all of those NPCs in the one game, so unless you don't ressurect, all those mods are doing is taking up memory space on your computer.

As has been pointed out, there is no need for Cleric Remix. Longer Road negates any need for Redemption, Tortured Souls is infamous for not being particuarly compatible with several other mods, a Disarm Trap spell is a bit pointless if you are taking a thief and Cal-Culator is, well, a bit silly. Your choice I guess.

I seriously advise thinking about if you really need all those mods or are simply taking them in order to have a list to rival Silverstar's (which won't work as he'll just end up looking for more in order to still have the most).

@Kitrax: Apart from being a bit wearing to have with you, Saerilith is IIRC incompatible with Kiara-Zaiya.

@Silvershield: Yes, that was a helpful comment that you contributed.

 

Wait, I do not have Iron Modder parts...what are they? Are they all compatible with each other? What do they add? I want those too!

OK, being serious, I do not think I will need more mods...I will add Improved Anvil if I can, and then cool NPCs Xan, Kido, Garreth, and a few things too, but that is it!

 

WHAT I MEANT, Decados, was that with all those mods I doubt his game could possibly run properly or that even any of the mods are going to work because many will end up clashing So my comment was actually quite beneficial

I'm sure Silver knows which mods clash with each other and in which order to install them

 

@Silvershield: Someday you'll have to explain exactly how saying that Silverstar has more mods really says 'I doubt your game will run properly'. If anything it implies the opposite (and was written in mass capitals with multiple exclamation marks).

However, regardless of how pointless I feel your interjection was, this isn't helping the OP's question so I'll leave it at that. Carry on people.

 

Well, I'm going to use this topic for my own benefit, and I hope Burndamage won't mind it. It's going to be short question anyway.

I'm planing on starting a new ToB game, with following mods installed:

Ascension
Longer Road
Oversight
NPC Flirt pack
Turnabout

Can there be any complications expected if all of these mods are installed at the same time? I plan to install them in this particular order, and the only thing that is bothering me, is that somewhere I read that Turnabout AND NPC Flirt pack should be installed last. So, which of them should be last last(hope that made any sense )? And if I choose not to install Turnabout, will the above order of mods installation work fine?

 

Without Turnabout? Yep, definitely. I usually do Oversight straight after Ascension, but that's mainly cause I think of the Five and then Improved Sendai. I can't see any problem with Turnabout either, nor predict any real problem with that order. I use Flirt Pack and don't install it last (I didn't realise it wanted to be until you said so). In other words, yep things look fine as you have them.

 

Thank you for your time good sir Your help was much appreciated.

One more question while on the subject. Does Ascension automatically installs improved bosses or not? Because there's no way in hell that I can beat improved Illasera with newly created character

 

Ascension gives you the option of which ones you want to install, so you can install only the ones you wish. If you are starting fresh in ToB, then yes, I'd advise against Improved Illasera.

 

Again thanks for the feedback and to answer some of your questions:

Kitrax

Yeh, I will probably take each one along just long enough to get their quest and then dump them for another. I just want to see what they are like and what they add to the game.

Sorry I missed Saerilith, I will look out for the mod and add it to the list.

I am going through the mod readme’s and various forums to try and find out about incompatibilities. It does look like there will be problems and if I have to dump some mods due to this, then so be it.

Thanks for the good luck – I think I am going to need it.

Decados

The reason in using so many mods is to try and create a very large BG2 game that I can enjoy. To find out what these mods do. To try and get a number of them to work together and then pass on the information to others.

I will try and use all the NPC mods installed to see what they do and ditch them if need be. I have a core party (original three characters) that will be used and I will take on NPCs as required.

Thanks for the info on Longer Road mod, Tortured Souls mod etc.

I am not trying to beat anyone on a list of mods in a BG2 game and I understand that a number of them will need to be dropped. The list of mods is what is compatibly with the big picture mod and I realize a lot of them will not work with each other.

Any more advice would be appreciated.

Mordokal

I don’t mind; feel free to ask as many questions as possible. The more information the better.


I am currently downloading the mods and going through the readme’s. Thanks to the above I have already decided to get rid of some of the mods that will not work with each other or are no longer needed. I am looking into the NPC mods and will get rid of any that look like they do not add much to the game (21+ NPC mods does seem like a lot).