Improved Demogorgon.

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Is there anyone here who has been able to beat him? With more than luck I mean.

I have a party of 4, myself (f/m/t), Tashia, Imoen and Sarevok. All near level 30. And I can't kill him. His regeneration is completely sick, and he seems to be immune against all magic, even the ones that offer no chance for resistance. Lower resistance, for example, has no effect. So All I can do is keep his magical defenses down with Tashia and Imoen's Improved Alactricity, while my main and Sarevok are hacking away with greater whirlwinds doing 20+ damage per hit and resulting in nothing. While he is hacking for some 50 points of damage per round/2 and dispelling all my protections once in a round. His minions are battling my planetars and Mordekainen's Swords.

I mean, the overpowering is rediculous. I'm expecting the end adversary is the same eh? Immune against all magic, even the ones the rules forbid immunity against? I've never cheated in this one before, save gotten a few items duplicated (yes, I've tried with double Robes of Vecna) for amusement's sake. But I don't think using that ctrl + y against a cheating adversary is wrong at all, in fact, that's exactly what I'm going to do the next time I sit by my comp and start to play ToB.

 

You cant cheat to kill the Demogorgon.It wont work..If everything else fails,abuse the summons by using project image - something like 10 morde and 5-6 planetars would be ok..use the planetars to busy the mariliths and surround the demo with the mordys,they should be able to hit him..remember,this is a Prince of Demons we are talking about

 

5-6 planetars????

[ February 07, 2003, 08:59: Message edited by: Khelben ]

 

Demogorgon is immune to Lower Resistance but you can still lower his magic resistance by using Pierce Magic (from one of the dozen or so wands you should have picked up in the keep).

 

I thought the whole point of the "improved" Demogorgon was for those people who thought the original version was too weak and needed spicing up a bit. If you're not happy with it, just go back to the original.

This reminds me of all those people who moan about how the HOW mode in Icewind Dale II is just too hard. It's an optional component added by the designers because people requested it. You don't want it, don't use it.

 

dshadow:

What part of "Is there anyone here who has been able to beat him? With more than luck I mean." did you go and misunderstand?

Of *course* I dislike an enemy that is not hard because he's hard. But because he's cheating. But the entire point of this thread was to ask who has beaten the improved Demogorgon, and how. I'll probably take the Ascension's improved enemies away at some point anyway, as all of the "improvements" in AI and extra difficulty of opponents seem to involve cheating and extra-rediculous unrealistic power of the most common of the additional opponents. But that's a rant I'll save for a nother thread, should I need to.

 

Your first problem is that you only have 4 people in your party. I suggest Haer'Dalis for improved bard song (imagine how much it would help, it boosts both your party and summons strength considerable) and one other of your choosing. I'm not sure what Tashia is (she is a mage correct?) but if she is not a cleric you need one in your party. Viconia is a good choice because of her magic resistance. Anomen is a better choice if you like melee combat.

Secondly, Demogorgon is practically a god - and, as such, he is immune to all but the strongest weapons. He requires +5 weapons to hit. Also spells of level 5 or below do not affect him. He has spell protections on him as well, and high level spells such as the warding whip, spell strike, and pierce magic are needed to lower his defenses. Lower Resist does not work because it is a level 5 spell. So it is not "cheating", as you said.

This may sound stupid, but make sure you have the proper gear equip. In tough battles like this every saving throw bonus, ac bonus, etc. makes a huge difference.

Don't complain about the difficulty. Demogorgon is, as I said, practically a god. On top of that he is an optional boss. He should be EXTREMELY difficult to defeat.

 

The most overpowered cheat of the whole game with the most overpowered spell:

Mirror Image allows you to cast ANY spell other than further duplication or Tensers since you can't hit anything.

However it's not ruled by the summons limits, so your MI can summon as many planetars as you've got slots. Then kill off the MI, do it all again.

With my solo sorcerer, I think I could have had some 30 odd at least if I wanted them. I usually found that 4 or so was enough

[EDIT] There may be another limit (total) that kicks in at some point, but I can't remember it. [Edit]

[ February 07, 2003, 14:29: Message edited by: Viking ]

 

OMFG this is fatal,gotta try it......