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Harder Drizzt

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Fly2tHeSkY, Jul 22, 2006.

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    @Fel: I suppose so, but I guess they could've made him just walk away saying something like "you're not worth of my time..." Then again that would be too uncharacteristic of Drizzt, or would it? Does Drizzt in the books try to kill everything that attacks him?

    There are some other characters in the game that are almost as unkillable as Drizzt. One of them is the Demon Knight in DT. However when you do actually kill him, you get the Helm of Opposite Alignment. This makes you wonder...Maybe they implemented some hard-to-kill characters in there for their own fun, to test the engine or something.

    But I'm perfectly willing to agree that they really didn't want Drizzt and the others like Dradeel(?) and UB's protector wizard what'shisname(?) to be killed at all. Good fun that they are killable nonetheless.

    edit: Dradeel, not Davaeorn!
     
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    Hello -

    Actually, the very first (and still the only one!) little mini-mod I made was one to make Drizzt disengage from the initial encounter in the event of PC hostility. He then resolves the issue in his own time and on his own terms in a place less conducive to exploit-killing him. There is still an opportunity for a non-violent end to this second encounter. If you do in fact force the fight, his insane uberness is toned down to reasonable levels, and his AI is slightly improved to compensate.

    It's a mod for Tutu. Click here to have a look.
     
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    Oh, cool...Too bad I'm not into Tutu right now...
     
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    @Felinoid. You always have the option of saying that you killed Drizzt, whether or not you SK some of his items in.

    @Iku. "There are some other characters in the game that are almost as unkillable as Drizzt. One of them is the Demon Knight in DT. However when you do actually kill him, you get the Helm of Opposite Alignment. This makes you wonder...Maybe they implemented some hard-to-kill characters in there for their own fun, to test the engine or something."

    I think I remember this fight from the first time I played through but I've never seen him again since. Is this another BG fight or is it in BG2 and I've just managed to consitently miss it? If the latter is true, please tell me what DT means and where I can find this fight.
     
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    @gatsbygon: It's Durlag's Tower.

    *spoiler!*


    When you go to the tower after you've agreed to go to a tour in there in Ulgoth's Beard, the Demon Knight emerges in the first floor of the tower. Then he is killable, but there's a trick to it. You have to beat him to it, with your fists after entrapping him into an Otiluke's resilient sphere. When he gets unconcious, and the sphere is either dispelled or it's duration runs out, you can kill him. From his body you should find the helmet. I've done this only once a while ago, so I can't remember if it's true, but some people here probably know better.


    *end of spoiler*

    edit: By the by, has anyone tried trapping Drizzt into an Otiluke's resilient sphere?

    [ July 26, 2006, 17:42: Message edited by: Iku-Turso ]
     
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    @Iku-Turso. Thanks.

    "edit: By the by, has anyone tried trapping Drizzt into an Otiluke's resilient sphere?"

    Firstly, its probably all but impossible if ORS works the same way it does in BG2. Even if you get through his magic resist, he still has to fail a pretty easy saving throw before he gets trapped and secondly, why would you want to? I thought there was no way to damage someone in a sphere.
     
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    Yes you may not be able to damage anything that resides within the sphere but whatever that has been trapped within becomes immoble. That way you can take on the rest of his party and surround him and kill him quickly ... unless suicide was your plan :lol: But I guess he's lost a lot of his edge in BGII huh
     
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    Actually, you can damage something inside the sphere, but as I said earlier, only with bare fists. This means that you can't KILL anything within the sphere, but you can knock them unconcious. This also means that their hitpoints will eventually be very low when the spell wears off. :evil:

    This would be another cheesy way of disposing Mr D in bg1 and possibly in bgII as well.
     
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    I don't know about that. In BG you're ORS is only going to last a few rounds. When you consider that all of your characters attacking him are only going to be getting one attack a round and they're going to need a critical to even hit him, then this looks like suicide when he wakes up. You *could* use this to buy some time to surround him with skeletons and do that trick but then again you can do the skeleton trick before you even talk to him. In BGII, there's really no point, Drizzt is so easy its dumb. I almost always forget about this fight but I've never ever been beaten by Drizzt. No planning, no special precautions, no matter what party, I always kill Drizzt. Its really just too easy. A solo shapeshifter can wipe the floor with that entire party.
     
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    Well, I've never tried it...but you can beat the Demon Knight this way, so how much more hp does Drizzt have?

    And that's 2 attacks with haste in the play, isn't it?

    But if you'd still need those critical hits with him trapped in the sphere, then it'd be truly pointless.
     
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    I didnt' think of haste, but I think the real challenge would be getting him in the sphere in the first place. 98% magic resist, and I'm sure he has good saves. I don't think you'd ever be able to get him in there.
     
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    To those who know better might want to answer if magic resistance affects OTR...

    But his saves will probably do it. IIRC the Demon Knight has magic resistance as well, but I could be wrong though. IIRC (again!) Shandalar in Ulgoth's Beard has pretty good mr as well, but you can trap him in the sphere. Of course their resistance isn't probably nearly as much as Drizzt's.
     
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