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Tower of Deception

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Toker, Jun 9, 2007.

  1. Toker Gems: 3/31
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    Hi everyone,
    i'm just getting stuck into this great mod and i'v hit a wall.
    The crystal shard thing and its protecter demon are completely invincible!
    I've tried hitting it with fire like the dryad suggested and this had no effect - in fact i've tried every spell and potion and +5 wepeons, i cant even srcatch it. Have i missed something obvious?

    [ June 09, 2007, 20:36: Message edited by: Taluntain ]
     
  2. Razfallow Gems: 6/31
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    You must kill Astral Shard Guardian first, then you can destroy Astral Shard itself.
    BTW do you face normal ASG or her improved version?
     
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    crucis Fighting the undead in Selune's name Veteran

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    Toker, the creator of the TOD mod mentioned in a previous post that the key to defeating the Astral Shard was obtusely mentioned in an earlier dialog. I actually played and beat the ToD a few days back, although I don't remember the dialog fragment that he mentioned. I defeated the shard's guardian fairly easily. Marileths are tough, but my party of 6 was well balanced and fairly powerful (all were around level 12-13, except Keldorn who was down around level 10-11 and only with the party temporarily), and I defeated it without too much difficulty.

    I initially had the same frustration as you with the shard. I tried hitting it with my best weapons and some magic. Then I said, what the heck. Nalia asked everyone to pull WAYYYY back, and she cast a fireball at the shard and pooof! No more shard!

    It should be noted that the shard guardian carried a rather suspicious item ;) that tipped me off. It carried a Necklace of Missiles. I also suspect that anything that produces a fireball would be sufficient to take out the shard; an arrow of detonation, a potion of explosions or firey burning, necklace of missiles, wand of fire, maybe even the potion of firebreath (or whatever it's called).
     
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    I'm playing the improved version and still no luck. Merillith has magic resistance to all offensive spells and i cant target it directly as true seeing does nothing. By the time its invisibility wears off most of my team are dead. Even when i can target it my magics have no effect!Not fireball, not pierce magic, nothing!
     
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    She casts Spell Immunity:Divination at the beginnig, that's why True Sight has no effect. You could try to dispel her improved invisibility with thief's "Detect illusions" skill, with Remove/Dispel magic or with Glitterdust, but she has high magic resistance ...

    But you can always uninstall this component. You don't get more XP or anything else for defeating her improved version.
     
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    crucis Fighting the undead in Selune's name Veteran

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    Oh, the Improved version. You're on your own, since I only played the normal version.

    You can still hack away at an Imp Invis'd enemy after they've made their first attack. If you have Keldorn in your party, perhaps his powerful Dispel, Magic might do the trick. Or perhaps a weapon that dispels on any hit, like the Holy Avenger or the Staff of the Magi might help out, although unless you have a thief or ftr/thief with UAI, your mage may not have enough of a Thac0 to get a hit with the SotMagi, short of rolling a natural 20.


    On a side note, I once tried to dispel something nasty on Jahiera with Nalia using the SotMagi, but poor Nalia couldn't lay a glove on Jahiera, even tho she was just standing around begging to get hit. Come to think of it, after a couple of rounds, Jahiera (still confused, after all) turned around and started swinging at Nalia. So, Nalia merely used the SotMagi's invis power and ran away. "Jahiera, heal thyself!"

    OTOH, earlier in the same party, Anomen had been hit by some sort of stunning magic and after the battle was over, I had Nalia go over to him a whack him with the Magi stick to dispel the magic. There was something amusing about that situation. TWACK!!! Dispel this, Sir Anojerk! ;)
     
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    Well, that´s why this component is called "Improved Astral Shard Guardian" :) . She´s much more tougher than normal version. Do it like Razfallow has wrote, and you´ll beat her up...
     
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    That spell immunity to divination is a great tactic. Is there anyway to counter it except dispell magic? This could make my mages even more annoying!
     
  9. Razfallow Gems: 6/31
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    Glitterdust can reveal invisible charactars.
    And thief with decent Detect Illusions skill, can do it too.

    Note: Improved Astral Shard fight will be tweaked in next version of ToD.
     
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