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Drow MOD

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Niskers, Apr 4, 2004.

  1. david w Gems: 19/31
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    The fact that the PC saved Baldur's Gate and killed Sarevok doesn't necessarily make you a good guy. After all, Melissan brought about the deaths of the Five (by using you as her unwitting accomplice) yet she's as evil as they come.

    Also, the fact remains that no matter what you've done in the past, the world as a whole is going to be mighty suspicious of anyone with the blood of the God of Murder in his veins. If you were a Drow on top of that...


    Another point to remember is that this is a world without TV, radio, mobile phones, etc, and so the average guy on the street in Athkatla isn't necessarily going to know what happens in a place a few hundred miles away like Baldur's Gate. For that matter, is Keldorn likely to know? Sure, he's probably heard of the conflict but is he going to be aware of your part in it? All he's likely to know about you is that you are a Drow (widely regarded as an evil race) and you have the blood of an evil God running through your veins. He'd be wary of you to say the least.
     
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    David you do not need T.V, Phones or Radio for word to get around, rememember, Baldurs gate was a city and everyone else around BG knew about you and Sarevok around the time you saved the Dukes from assasination, but I cannot remember all the minor details of the game. So even without all this modern communication word can still travel around quickly enough if say, a merchant traveled to Athkatla, and talked about this with person, a, then person a would tell person b, and person c would overhear a few things, and not have the full story but make up things to fill in the gaps for them, person c then tells d and then the stories just get more and more inaccurate from there. And who's to say how long you actually spent in Irenicus's dungeon before escaping? it could have been days, weeks or months for all we know.

    And I dont really know anything about the laws in Amn other than you cannot use magic without a license, but is there a law that can prosecute you just from been a drow? if not then you probably do not have much to worry about since I dont think a mob of peasants are going to attack a drow, in a band of armed and trained warriors, when they have equipment such as Red/Black scales Celestial Fury and Staff of the Magi.
     
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    No actually i remember with Viconia i talked to a cerk and she said that there was an act forcing Drow to pay for 'safe' passage in the city, and then Viconia yelled at her saying that beinga ttacked by fanatics was payment enuff
     
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    If a merchant from Baldur's Gate travelled to Athkatla and told his story to B and B told it to C and C told it to D and so on... I doubt the end result would be anything like the series of events which really happened.

    And like I said before, Melissan schemed to bring about the death of the Five. Does this make her good?
     
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    No, it doesnt make her good but she is an NPC and you are the PC so this is where the "role" part of role and or power playing comes into it.

    I can still understand what you are saying though but even if you were evil why would anyone be suspicious that you killed him for you're own gain? as I said I've forgot what hapened in most of BG but I do remember the SoA intro stating "you were a hero of Baldurs Gate" and "you departed soon after under dark circumstances" this kind of hints at the fact that you left BG because the people knew what you are, so you left before they decided to hang you from the gallows ;) Considering what Alundo said about the Children of Bhaal I could certainly imagine a Child of Bhaal been more feared than a lone drow.

    Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say that a person would just say hi to a passing drow and think nothing of it, but I don't think that it should be impossible to roleplay as a drow like you seem to suggest.

    And I think that been able to play a drow would be great though anyway, so long as you get some of their racial bonuses, it could balance out the disadvantages to make it all worth it, and as for the been on the surface world goes, I stated earlier that people that are pure blooded from a country where it's always hot would probably handle the heat better than me, so maybe -2 to ThacO for a Drow? -1? more?
     
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    I don't think it *would* be impossible to roleplay a Drow. Just challenging.

    Holier-than-thou sorts like the Order of the Radiant Heart, and most of the temples, would be wary of you because of what is widely known about the Drow. They might agree to work with you providing you had a decent enough reputation but I think the wariness would remain for a long time.
     
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    Well, beside the roleplaying thing... It's neat to start the game with 65% magic resistance. :spin:
     
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    The mod necessary to do this would be so extensive in scope that there's no real point.

    That said, it would be neat to try, but the whole game would need to be rewritten.
     
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    Well that really depends on how indepth you intended to go. Certainly the underdark would be a major overhaul, but as for the rest of it, if you limited yourself to one or two pieces of dialogue before the original stuff kicks in it shouldn't be too bad. On the other hand I know very little about making MODs. I'm more of an idea person. I'd be perfectly happy to help some up with the details, if I had someone willing to take on the challenge of implementation.
     
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    There are thousands of dialogue files in the game. Do you want one or two new states added to each? That's a lot more work than you'd think.
     
  11. Niskers Gems: 7/31
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    I know it's a lot of work, though I wans't referring to all of them. Like I said this is a matter of how indepth you really want to go, and how much effort someone's willing to put into it.
     
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    i had been told there was now a drow race download, but i have checked all the site i used before to download mods, patches etc but i haven't found it yet, if anyone here knows if it does exitst and preferably where please notify me as since i first completed BGII i have always wanted 2 play as a drow
    P.S i am new to the site as you might have guessed

    [ April 16, 2004, 12:40: Message edited by: Veldrin the Drow ]
     
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    @ Veldrin
    Welcome to the boards, Veldrin. :wave:

    Subraces - clicky to download a mod which should allow you to play as a drow. I use it to make my PC a tiefling.
     
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    Thanks for the welcome,and the link. you will probable see me on the site a fair bit now, thanks again.
    veldrin
     
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    oo....im soo going to keep that mod under sight!
     
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    Well I tried downloading and installing, it all goes well I start a new game and it doesent work, whats up with that?
     
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    You dont get to choose one of the new races right away, e.g. when you create your character.
    Instead you have to start the game, and right after Irenicus worked his magic on you, but before Imoen opens your cage, a strange creature will appear and quizz you about your ancestry. By picking the proper main race (human, elf, dwarf, gnome) during the creation of your character plus the right answer you give that fellow, you are made into a drow, tiefling, tinker gnome etc.

    So, if you want to be a tiefling, take human as your race and choose 'I have fiendish blood in me' (or something to that effect) as an option when that guy asks you about your heritage. Same for drow and all the other subraces - only then you have to pick the corresponding main race.
     
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    But is this mod not aimed at subraces in general?
    I've tried it (if we are discussing the same mod here) and I don't think it does really dig in to the issue of the characters race, and how it's viewd on by the npcs (IMO that is).

    [ April 14, 2004, 18:31: Message edited by: Zurga ]
     
  19. Niskers Gems: 7/31
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    In many ways that's been the whole issue of this thread. The level of detail required to get into the issue of subraces is massive and controversial. I don't know a whole lot about all the different races, but if they're anything like the problems we've dug up with the Drow, making a subraces MoD might really be impossible (at least in terms of what the fans would REALLY want).

    That said, I'm playing a Drow with the subraces MoD and using my imagination to fill in the details. When in doubt, RP in your head!
     
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    [​IMG] Niskers, it's written mod, not MoD, it's an abbreviation of module. Cheers! :)
     
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