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Beat Imp. Asylum party an my PC became invincible!

Discussion in 'BG2: Throne of Bhaal (Classic)' started by Silverstar, Jun 27, 2006.

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    [​IMG] Hey guys, I was not here for a week or so, but I was kinda busy, you see. I was determined to beat Imp. Asylum party! Well I had tried twice in my previous games, first try:complete anhilation. Second game:Killed half, and ran. But this time I had to kill them all!

    My party was:

    Me, as Chorister (bard kit with few cleric spells)
    Arcane Fist MP char. (a bardic monk)
    Good old Jaheira
    Keto (SKed into a Skald)
    Jan (first time I got him, but he was crucial to success)
    Dear sister Immy

    We were 2M+ XP, so no HLAs.

    Here is my official strategy guide for the Imp. Asylum party. Enjoy!

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    The party has insanely powerful equipment, and their levels are abnormal. I checked via SK and saw that Drucilia chick was a level 50 mage (cough cough) with a lot of Time Stops. Basically, when she casts a Time Stop battle is over, as Brudeya drow boy and his wife Anastacia are immune to TS, and you have three of them pounding your party in never ending Time Stops, Anastacia's sword does +5 acid, cold, fire and lightning damage (+20 damage per hit) and off hand weapon is even more dangerous, raining 3 CHA per hit permanently which kills fast. Thordek is not immune to TS but his dwarven plate makes him Imp. Hasted AND he wields a vorpal axe+5! So he is very dangerous too!

    My first target was Dru mage, followed by Thordek. Killing Anastacia was not an option, if you kill her before her husband, her husband goes berserk an all your party dies instantly, it is a damn script.

    Placed some traps near Thordek, courtesy of Jan, and placed Immy and Jan behind Drucilia, invisible. My Arcane Fist, Keto and Jaheira stood next to Thordek. My Chorister summmoned an army of gnolls near Anastacia and Brudeya boy. To soak their attacks.

    My chorister shot an arrow of dispelling to Drucilia to start the fight. As soon as she gets dispelled of her stoneskin and tons of other protections, Immy an Jan BACKSTABS her at the same time! Wo-hoo! Jan also gets a critical hit and poor lass is blasted into tiny chunks of meat! Level 50 arch-magi is down! :evil:

    This pissed her comrades of course, an as traps hit Thordek, and my fighters started bashing on him, Anastacia was busy slaying my gnolls. I heard invisible Brudeya boy chanting an alteration spell (guess what it is?) but we ha to kill the dwarf!

    Too late. His Time Stop came in. We were all frozen but Anastacia was not. She killed a gnoll an attacked poor JAN! Her high elemental damage pierced Jan's stoneskins an he was about to die. Then for some reason she headed for nearby Jaheira and attacked her, wounde her too. meanwhile Brudeya boy unleashe four ADHWs, casted a death spell for gnolls, summoned a Planetar, and imprisoned the gnoll next to him (DUMB! :shake: )

    Time returned to normal, I ordere my entire party to retreat to room to the north, but my Arcane Fist, Jan, Jaheira an Imoen got caught by four ADHWs. And they died. (duh) My Chorister, and Keto, being bards, and fleet of feet, managed to retreat to the room north an closed the doors.

    No time to mourn for our comrades, we waited a little (I just CTRL+T) so Planetar got unsummoned.

    My Chorister, (as Keto was about the cry, she is not quite the bravest of bards) protected by PfMW, entered the room, and found Thordek NEAR DEATH, but he did not attack me for some reason, he just stood there. Anastacia and her mate attacked me but I was conveniently immune. I casted two Sunfires which did pathetic damage to Thordek, I called for Keto too, she finally had the guts to come and blast another Sunfire, which killed Thordek. One more down, two to go!

    But I did not notice my PfMW was gone. Foolish. Brudeya boy bashed with his SoM and dispelled me, an his wife started slashing through my poor Chorister, he got badly wounded and retreated to the door with Keto, and closed, just in time.

    He had less than 20 HP and his CHA was now 9! (he had 15 to begin with) Damn. Healed via potions, and Keto attracted both Anastacia an Brudeya boy to the door an we closed the door, locking them there.

    I saved the game, ressurected our friends via rod, re-equipped and went back to first floor to rest. I tried resting in this floor but got disrupted by 12 crazy mages! 12 mages! LOAD!

    After Bodhi and her Ancient Vampires assaulted us for a very short battle (my Chorister just used Daystar and they were gone) we returned to second floor to finish the party.

    I had to kill the drow mage first. But he has Robe of Mystra, the most kick-a** rob ever. He is immune to Time Stop, Charm, Confusion, Fear, Imprisonment, level 6 spells or lower, and his MR is way higher than %100, robe makes him immune up to +3 weapons but I remembered that SoM did not hit him. He is also immune to area effect spells. And he is always invisible thanks to his Staff of True Magi. True Sight does not work, he is immune, Detect Illusions work but he goes invisible instantly again.

    I did not know how to kill him, then remembered that some guy from SP told me that traps could hit him.

    Jan set six traps (via resting) and lured the Brudeya boy, and...

    Traps killed him.

    He died.

    Just like that... I was amazed. Suprised. Overjoyed.

    Anastacia raged. 'Prepare to meet your end' she yelled and assaulte POOR Jan. I checked his CHA. He only had 1 remaining, which means=1 more hit, and permanently dead.

    He casted a PfMW and as Anastacia attacked her in vain, I ordered my entire party to attack her!

    But...

    You see, my party has three bards. (my Chorister, Keto, and Arcane Fist.) Anastacia's off hand weapon is named Bard's Bane, and rightfully so, as, it confers Protection from Bards! WTF! My three bards just could not attack or target her with spells. This was soo annoying! :p

    Eventually, Jaheira (her Item Upgrade club+5 oing impressive continous acid and piercing damage) managed to kill her.

    They were dead. All of them. It was time for the best part! LOOTING! :evil:

    Brudeya boy's spiffy Robe of Mystra. Usable by Neutral Mages, Jan got it, and nobody can say he did not deserve. He also ha a criclet which gives +3 spells per spell levels 1-7. But usable by drows. His Staff of True Magi is as good as SoM (which we don't have yet) an Immy grabbed it.

    Thordek's vorpal +5 axe is too good to be true, it confers +%50 MR and protection from elves! Keto immediately got it! His dwarven plate is usable only by dwarves, but Jaheira really appreciated his shield, AC+5, +%20 all resistances, including MR.

    Drucia's rings, and robe gave so many bonus spells.

    Anastacia's two deadly swords, spiffy chainmail, wow they are too goo to be true, really. Along with a ring which makes immune to targeted offensive spells.

    Now, how did my bard become invincible.

    I was in Underark when my Chorister hit 3M xp and got his first HLA:Use Any Item, ofcourse.

    This was cool. I was able to wear everything, anything!

    I donned Robe of Mystra, Brudeya boy's 'drow only' circlet, along with Anastacia's elemental sword, and Thordek's shield, and then I took Kelsey's Cloak from my bag (which is as good as Balduran's cloak, with bonus spells, +1 CON, and Green Fireshield effect.)

    My MR was %127, all other resistances were %80 or better, I was immune to Imprisonment, Time Stop, +3 weapons or less, any offensice spell, level 6 spells or lower, charm, confusion, fear, poison, etc. etc. Basically I was immune to everything! I was invincible. OH and with all bonus spells, I had 8 spell slots for levels 1-7. VERY impressive for a bardic boy, right?

    I attacked a drow party myself only. Watched them trying to harm me, casting their arsenal of spells on me.

    -Weapon Ineffective
    -Spell Ineffective

    BWAHAHAHA the whole drow army could not touch me, I was invincible, immortal, I was a GOD!

    But...the game was not challenging or fun anymore.

    Plus robe of Mystra is buggy. Yes. I had my party
    attack me with +5 weapons and MMMs, and spells.

    Nothing could touch me. The robe haS made me immune to all weapons AND spells!

    I like my games hard so I had to do something, I just, opened SK and deleted the way too cheesy robe.

    I am now equipping Anastacia's spiffy chain, which gives tons of elemental resistances, immunity to lvl 1 spells, an good AC, it allows spells too. I guess it suits a bard better.

    Did I do the right thing? I feel no shame, after working so hard to get the robe I just deleted it, it was the most cheesy thing I knew.

    Though we still have other items, my Chorister can cast so many spells, (even more than Immy or Jan, an I have level 50 patch, he can have LOTS of lvl 8 spells too!) the game is so fun, and I look forward to play again. I love this game!

    Have fun, and feel free to add your comments if you really did read the whole post. :roll:
     
  2. Daie d'Malkin

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    *bugs out* I need these items. WHich mod was this?
     
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    [​IMG] Well Improved Asylum mod ofcourse. I warn you, the items are all too spiffy and cheesy and incredible but killing thos guys to get them is VERY hard, though I believe I have found the perfect strategy.

    The mod also adds new monsters an encounters to the old asylum, making it a new an fresh place. It even adds new riddles.

    It also adds new liches, and Bodhi comes to visit you for fun once in a while with her unead crew, which is cool and fitting. She likes hunting you, right?

    All in all it is a very goo mod, makes the asylum a new and fun place, but definitely not for the faint of heart, it can get extremely difficult and way too power-gamish! But regardless it is cool and fun. If you think you can tackle level 50 characters with those items, go for it!
    http://www.rpgdungeon.net/cms/content/view/62/25/

    EDIT:I just noticed that my keyboard's 'D'letter is broken, so there are a lot of missing Ds in the first post, sorry. :(

    My Chorister now dual-wields Anastacia's elemental sword an Lawiethel's Mage Balde from BoM item mod, it adds a lot of bonus spells too, my bar has so many spells it is fun!

    I wanted to dual-wield Bard's bane but its protection from bards ability harms my Chorister, he can not cast spells like Stoneskin, Mirror Image etc. on himself as he is protected from himself. Lame. :p

    Ofcourse his THAC0 is crappy, but I have a plan. Imoen will eventually cast Time Stop, and my Bard won't be affected thanks to his sword, he will auto-hit enemies frozen in time with his spiffy swords, and improved hasted, he will do masive damage (+20 elemental damage per hit) while Imoen unleashes more ADHWs as usual. It will be fun strategy, hopefully, with bro and sissy raining havoc to all! :shake:

    [ June 27, 2006, 12:35: Message edited by: Silverstar ]
     
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    Seems that this "difficulty increasing" mod is rather a "difficulty decreasing" mod.

    A mod rather for boasting than for challenging, like most others.
     
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    @Silverstar


    Breudayel can also be damaged by :

    - Incendiary Clouds (4 of them at the same time will kill him despite his MR - it's not 100% BTW)
    - Ring of the Ram
    - Necklace of Missiles


    Also you should be able to blind him with Nature's Beauty (bypass the cloak of cheese but not MR),but I have not tested it yet.


    @kmonster


    Only if you use those items added by the mod. ;)
     
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    And, it's quite possible that most of those items will be set to undroppable in the next incarnation of the mod.

    Glad you're enjoying it, though!
     
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    I always wait for HLAs before tackling those goons. Three or four spike traps in the right place, and down they go. Serves them right for being so cheesy.
     
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    ooo wow, you'r my hero, you used a bunch of cheese to beat a srtong party, and once you got their cheesy items, you cheesed some more.. why dont u just SK urself to godhood and save yourself the trouble of loading 20 times...
     
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    Heh I don't think I used most cheese though, my party did not have HLAs or 8th level spells so I had to do what I could. :good: It was fun though. I admit I never thought they were meant to be beateble. :roll:

    And I do not regret deleting Robe of the Mystra, without it my game is better, but that spiffy elemental sword Heart of Braldain is just too cool to have, my bard scored a crit. hit on a drow priestess, for 42 slashing damage plus +5 acid, cold, fire, and light damage, a total of 62 damage in one hit, pretty impressive for a pathetic melee fighter like Chorister. I wonder what it could do in the hands of a GM, massive STR fighter with GWW atacks. 10 attacks/round would add 200 elemental damage per round, nasty that. :evil:
     
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    @Silverstar: Hmm...that was quite a read! :)

    I'd say kudos...this is the sort of stuff all us chronic powergamers thrive on after years and years of playin BG2! :D

    PS:Don't pay attention to w.d...he hasn't seen the light yet.

    PPS: If I wanted to solo this with a Fighter/Mage/Cleric...do you think it is possible assuming I rush Spellhold?
     
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    I'd say the most incredible part of your story (and the one I have the hardest time believing :) ) is that Imoen and Jan BOTH landed a backstab. I can count on two fingers the number of times those two have ever done the same for me. Other than that good read.
     
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    Great post Silverstar. I am constantly wondering what MODs to introduce and this seems interesting.

    But I do wonder, can those chaps be avoided?
    If not you are just stuck and that would be a shame.
     
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    Chelsea, I don't know about avoiding, but there's no need to fight, if you don't want to.
    And, w.d, it's called "taking challenges". Bet most people coulnd't win even with ten times more cheese than Silverstar used, including me. Althought traps would kill them, all other cheese would be in vain.
    And, congratulations! victory worth a phrase.
     
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    Unless you flat out threaten the guys, they won't attack you.
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up.

    It was brown pantaloons time there for a minute! :p
     
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    It is an optional challenge, they o not attack you first, but I was tempted to attack them to test my limits. Regardless, I learned a few things.

    -They are indeed beatable.
    -Jan is inavaluable against them.
    -Having three bards vs Anastacia is a VERY bad idea.
     
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    I have been trying and trying them, but what ever I do...and I mean WHATEVER! - I can not even scratch Buen.

    I have tried Incendiary Clouds..does not even phase him. I had 6 going at once...sorted out his buddies but Buen was unphased. Tried a few Abi's...same result.

    Rakeshar's...can not effect, Mordi's Swords...nothing, Pit Fiend (stood there and flailed around a bit..then was unsummoned I think - normal summons (like Hobgobs) can not effect - Breach, Ruby Ray, Khelbans Whip, etc etc - NO EFFECT.

    Then the real toenail in the icecream.... ;)

    He goes crazxy and attacks your party (who are in the Lich room for safety. He hits them all with Blue Lightning (no idea what spell that is!!!) which ends up killing them, if his Imprisionments do not!!!!!

    He is MAD with Blue Lightning and more Imprisonments than an army of Demi-Liches. Every round now you are hit with multiple lightnings and Imprisonments.

    But worst of all HE DOES NOT MOVE!!!!!

    So No Spike Traps can affect as wherever you go on this level he hits you with repeated lightning and Imprisonments.

    Weapons (even +6) do not damage. So all my whirlwinds with Staff of the Ram, Holy Avenger or Celestial Fury were in vain. And of course spells did not work...BUT I do not have Spellstrike!

    Eventually the game gets fed up (if you survive) and crashes (probably due to lack of interest).

    In short...IMPOSSIBLE in my experience.
     
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    The blue lightning and imprisonment comes from you killing the mage's girlfriend or whatever. You have to kill the mage before that.
     
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    ... so out of curiosity I installed the mod... and went there as soon as my lvl9 fighter dualed to a cleric got to lvl 10... honestly with cheese this is a joke of a fight... their scripts dont even work properly.....
    my only question is, where did their names come from..
     
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    @UCLAEnigma - I can not see the guy TO kill him.

    I can see that he is there due to his spell effects, but true sight, dispel magic etc etc may only show him for a nano second. He seems largely immune to everything damage giving (spells, weapons etc).
     
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