best bard build

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hey all. i really like bard but i find it hard to make a good one. good some people give me some tips on it eg: race, build, early lvl feats and skills etc: thanx

 

It depends what you want your bard to do.
If you make him the talker of your party, you need different stats then when you use him purely for his songs...

So what will your bard DO in the party ?

 

i want him as a mainly as a back spell caster who can add a bit more brute force to the party, and he/she would probaly be my talker

 

If you want him to be the talker as well, it depends if you have a rogue or not.

No rogue ?

Then you want your bard to have the following skills :

Search
Disarms traps
Diplomacy
Intimidate
Bluff

I dont know exactly, but this is A LOT of skillpoints, since search and bluff ( Im not sure about disarms traps ) take 2 skill points per level.

I would go the way I went my with my rogue/bard.

Take rogue levels until 10, then take bard, you wont profit a lot from the spells during normal mode, during hof, when he gets his bards abilities maxed, he will be helpfull addition to your party.

His spells wont be that powerfull since he gets spells at a much slower rate than sorcerers do, so dont get over focussed on that.

IIRC correctly, my rogue/bard is something like this :

Human

STR 6
DEX 18
CON 16
INT 16
WIS 10
CHA 14

Human to get the one extra skill point per level ( is equal to +2 int if int > 10 )
CHA 14 to get a little bonus to your talking skills, but you dont need them that much, you could go for 10 CHA and put the 4 points somewhere else, like +2 STR and +2 con

 

you should go for drow probably as they get CHA and INT +2. INT you need for skillpoints and CHA for your spells. CHA 20 is good, remember the +5 bonus against enemies saving rolls etc.
also, a bard needs many abilities and drow gives good. you will have a skillpoint in bow and +2 DEX which is good, also.

 

I would go for strength 8 (so your carrying capacity isn't abysmal) plus weapon finesse and bull' s strength. But where to take off the two points? Probably wisdom. Bard/rogue is a nice build, but tough because you're always stetched on skill points. Pure bard would get you level 8 spells in hof (level 26 and up) but I don't know how useful this is, never having done it. Your first feat should be Lingering Song.

 

should i give him light armour and some points in armoured arcana or is this a waste?

 

I'm trying to make a Blade (BG2 bard kit) equivalent Bard... I got some idea like taking TWF, weapon fineese. but not sure of how am i going to build it... any idea?

Thanks