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What is the BEST CLASS?

Discussion in 'Icewind Dale 2' started by JayR, Aug 15, 2006.

  1. JayR Gems: 1/31
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    If all the classes were to go 1 on 1.
    Who whould win the majority of the fights?
    Please explain why.

    Are there any dominate spells,skills or items that one classes can get? Which would greatly determine the outcome?
     
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    Sorcerers, if you do it right. Especially in HoF, My Sorc alone has more than %40 of kills, thanks to WoB. Mass Dominate is very useful too. Sorc rules in PvM.

    Interesting, I battled my characters 1 on 1. My bard managed to kill my sorc as he casted Imp. Invisibility on himself, therefore Sorc could not target him with Finger of Death. (which would SURELY kill him) Interesting indeed! :shake:
     
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    So a fighter could not stand any of those spells?
    Whatabout his item capacity could he hold enough to heal and kill the sorc? or take out his concentration?

    Keep in mind I have not yet passed lvl 9
     
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    Warriors need the backup of clerics or arcane casters. That, or a truckload of magical trinkets that ward them from being charmed, drained, paralized etc. Also, they need the magic to dispel the opponent's magic. You can't charge an invisible mage and they have trouble hitting a blurred sorcerer. So a fighter would not make it on his own, especially not with his low Will Saves.

    Sorcerers need to be quick, though. If their spells fizzle, there is not much protection for them left but their robes and dex. That usually can't stop the warriors from decapitating them. Still, I think they have a good chance.

    I heared the Druid was especially powerful in IWD2, compared to the druids in other games. I remember I liked to play them. Much offensive spells and beasties to take the hits.

    Edit: You can say there is no 'best' class, only very good party-combo's. That's what makes a game like IWD2 special. Party combo's. And intriguing solo's.
    Edit2: Ah. I see Bronze has pointed that out already in the post below. So much surprises if you are a slow typer like me... :)
     
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    At level 1 a fighter would litterally anihilate any spellcaster.

    At max level by the time the fighter gets rid of the spellcaster's protection he will be dead.

    Anyway there is no "best class" since the point is to work as a team, a high level sorcerer can take out a full group of baddies with one spell but he will still be happy to have a big guy with a big weapon in his party to keep the enemies off himself.

    If you're looking to solo the game then a pure melee fighter certainly isn't the best choice.
     
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    Sorry, maybe I should have made this clear.....I understand all classes are peices to a mighty team.

    But in every team there is a Jordan, Shaq or Kobe.

    You made a good point about the lvl 1 fighter versus a lvl 1 spellcaster.....lol.

    What do you think is the best solo class?

    A pure sorc?
    How willl a paladin do?
    I also read up on Chevalier's uber Paladin Wizard:

    Are there stronger combinations?
     
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    You should have made a POLL!! Anyway...my bet would be Sorcerers...
     
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    With the overpowered mirror image an arcane caster will have enough time to easily kill any other class either with instant death magic, enchantments or fireballs for cleric-types with good fort and will saves.
    An enough lvl:d cleric would easily kill a fighter in melee with the help of some heal-spells which increases his effective HP by much. DUHM, holy power and some other spells make them even do more damage than a pure fighter. This insights made me exchange my tanks to fighter-class/clerics and fighter-class/druids as backups, both with almost all lvls in their spell-casting side
     
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    Hmph. My bard really anhilated my Sorc this time. Improved Inv, and then Powerword Silence, my poor Sorc tried to run away from my wicked bard's nasty nasty arrows, and once his stoneskin was gone, he fell fast with tiny HP.

    This is strange. My bard stands little chance against all those hordes of monsters in HoF, whilst my sorc rips them apart fast! Hmm...
     
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    Sorceror for sure.

    The D&D system has always had mages start out as the weakest but eventually become the strongest. It's the pay-off for struggling through those early levels with 4 hit points and 2 magic missiles.

    That's not to say that you couldn't build a melee character that could stand up to the might of a sorc 1-on-1, especially with 3rd edition rules. Some kind of drow monk/paladin/cleric, given he has the right equipment and time to buff up.
     
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    Barbarian. The other classes would lose to the Barbarian at level 1 (because he has the most hit points, all other things being equal - so would win the pathetic swing and miss fights that stage) so none of the spellcasters would ever make it the high levels where they become more powerful.
     
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    Why is the sorc so much powerful over the wizard, druid or cleric?


    I also heard you can solo with a rouge and not a fighter? How is that?


    @ Diamond how is your bard whoppin up on your sorc.....please explain.

    [ August 16, 2006, 06:42: Message edited by: JayR ]
     
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    Because the sorcerer can cast the most spells.
     
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    In D&D 3E, cleric.

    In IWD2, sorcerer for sure past about level six.
     
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    My vote goes to the Monk. If the classes were indeed to go one on one, then let's hope the everybody else's saves can match those of his special fist attacks - what with all the +wisdom goodies in the game.

    And let us not forget all the extremely low AC/high SR cheesiness that Monk M/C's have access to.
     
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    I also say monk in a one on one battle with any other character. A 30th level DG monk would have over 30 armor class, 50 spell resistance, 20 point damage reduction, quivering palm for one hit kills, stunning attack, quick movement which could help with tactics, mirror image (innate DG ability), immunity to poison and fatigue....and probably more attributes that I can't remember just now.

    Sorcerer has the easiest time soloing, especially with a level or two of paladin thrown in. But, it is nearly as easy to solo the DG monk...easier in some spots.
     
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    Sorry, I didn't actually read the post before replying.

    The question wasn't specific enough to have only one answer. What level are the characters? Is multiclassing allowed? What items do they have? (in regular D&D we could assume they have standard wealth for their level, but in IWD2 only certain items appear, and some only randomly). Will they fight in a big open map, a mazelike map, or maybe just a small arena?

    Even if all these questions are decided, there might not be a single best class that is strictly superior, but just good and bad matchups, like a fighting game (Kilik beats Taki who beats Sophita who beats Kilik).

    Then again, probably sorcerer is the best. MI, invis, summons, save-or-die spells...

    IWD2 is not meant for pvp fights.
     
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    Because we're talking about a 1-on-1 fight. The strength of wizards over sorcs is in general adventuring through villages, haunted tombs, dungeons, etc.

    If someone said "build a sorc for a 1-on-1 fight" you'd pick all the best damage-dealing spells. That same character would have a much harder time making his way through your average adventure while the wizard (or cleric, bard or druid) would be much more suited to talking to NPCs, charming people, sneaking around, disarming traps, gathering information, healing, curing disease, etc.
     
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    sorcerer is the best class its just a shame there aren't bg2 rules ...cause project image basically multiplied the sorc's total spells by 7...and 10th lvl spell timestop allowed the casting of 10-30ish spells in 1round
     
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