Icewind Dale 2 Expansion?

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I'm new to the IWD2 scene, but while palying the game I got slightly disappointed by the leaving out of 3D Accelleration from IWD2. Don't get me wrong, but the game would run better if it had 3D support. When Black Isle release IWD2's expansion who thinks that 3D support should be included? Also feel free to post what else you think should be in the expansion, you never know Black Isle may just listen to us and put it in.

(By the way, in case some of you are thinking that that last line sounds suspisious, I'm not from Black Isle or any of the companies that made IWD2, I'm in Australia and wouldn't know the first thing to do in making a quality title such as IWD2)

 

Hey, welcome to Sorcerer's Place. I don't think that Balck Isle is even going to make an expansion for Icewind Dale 2. If they did though, I think 3d support would certainly be a plus!

 

I don't really think that Black Isle is going to make an EP, and if they did, I wouldn't want it to be 3D. My stupid computer can hardly handle IWD II as it is... >.<

 

There will be no expansion at all. It has been mentioned in many posts like this: http://www.sorcerers.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=14;t=001081#000010

Search before you ask... But none-the-less, welcome to the boards.

 

Actually, Black Isle is using a new game engine called Velocity Engine on their coming game Lionheart, and still no 3D. If you ask me, VE looks pretty much like IE from the screen. i am still downloading the demo.

 

Hey Taluntain.

I don't what be uncourteous. But I see one good point of having 3D support in DnD games: to rotate and/or zoom the scene and "see better" what is going on.

For example speel effects in IWDII sometimes make the scene unrecognisable. There are some other solutions, that I see as better ones (no such HW requirements, more details possible):

• List of all characters and item in the scene - you can target an object without having doubts
• List of all ongoing actions - who is attacking who, who is casting a spell (only if one of your character could recognize this spell, ...)
• ???

Many such things could be read in consoles (IWDII has one too ).

These are only possibilities. DnD is originaly turn based. IWDII is near to turn based because of "PAUSE on turn end". With more infos without many "nice things" (visual effects) it would be better understood by new players (I mean DnD rules and their usage, or other rules in any game).

I agree, that you need more info on playing DnD game. And you need more schnick-schnack for selling a computer product

 

sorry Tal but considering im not a computer anylist or someone like that, what is 3d support?

and no i didnt think it meant turning the game into 3d.

 

3d support could means use of special 3D driver / OS / HW support (mostly to improve performance of rendering scenes, or to exploit special rendering algorithms like fog creation, particle system, lights, shadows, ...).

All layers (driver, OS, HW) can implement these features. If HW (graphic card with accelerator) implements them, driver or OS uses this implementation. Otherwise they implement these features. Heard something on OpenGL, DirectX, ... ?

These features can be used also in 2d engines with some tricks. Of course best usage is in real 3d applications.

Is this it Tal?

 

i apologize for my latency, but reading this post i noticed something that teekc said. about the Velocity engine and the game Lionheart, what is that about? what sort of game is it? does anyone know a release date?

 

http://lionheart.blackisle.com/
What sort of game? If you judge by the demo it will be a terrible game. But I would say it's going to be a great sort of game.
And its release date? Sometime this month iirc.

 

Thanks

 

Taluntain was right. I meant that 3D support should be put in to speed up some of the spell castings of the game. My computer runs the game okay, but I was dissappointed that BG2 had 3D support and IWD2 didn't. Having now reached the 3rd chapter, I still think that an expansion should be made for IWD2. Even if that expansion takes the adventurers somewhere awy from the Ten-Towns, like what HoW and TotLM did.

 

Actually, if there's not going going to be an expansion for IWD2, we could make one by modding the game. I already have a Creature Editor capable of creating/editing creatures, the only thing that is needed is an area editor which I could work on, and Weidu to work some dialogs.

 

Yes, some expansion would be nice to see. It could:

1) Fix Improved Initiative. It sucks that not even a patch has been created to fix this.

2) Include Prestige Classes.

Epic feats would be nice for levels 21+ (nay, they're not overpowered - just look at the other prerequisites, like CHA 25+).

Item creation and metamagic wouldn't hurt.

And, finally, paladins of Mystra should be allowed to multi into sorcerer class. Paladins of Ilmater should certainly be allowed multiclassing monk with paladin as Ilmater himself did (he's monk 20 / paladin 20). Paladins of other deities than Helm, Ilmater or Mystra wouldn't have any different multiclass options, but come on - it's important for a paladin's deity to be THE deity and not a similar one. I guess people would really like to see Torm here. Perhaps Tyr too. However, I, for example, would rather they also included paladins of Lathander. I suppose some people would also welcome paladins of Good, Law, Light, Justice etc - there's plenty of those (and they aren't necessarily atheistic - they just don't choose any particular deity). Even if this only means a different name - and well, what else does one really need. Of course, a few special dialogues would be nice, but again - not really indispensible. For sure paladins of Kelemvor would make quite a nice roleplaying experience.

 

Including prestige classes is excluded (lol). It is exe hardcored, meaning we would have to replace classes in order to add prestige ones. All the others are possible....