What is everyone's guess about the console wars?

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To everyone who goes on about console's sucking.

This is a post for people who are interested in consoles, own consoles, work with consoles. If you want to rip consoles, make another post. Its annoying that people are saying stuff like "Oh, why get a console, PC's are better"

That is a obvious point, but when are you going to see game's like Devil Mayt Cry ona and two on pc? or Super Mario Sunshine on Pc? You ain't, are ya.

Just leave us consolers alone. Ive got a Pc, and I agree, its more powerful, and can sometimes create a better version of Console game's, such as GTA3, but Console's often get the first play-test, so just moan about PS2, GC, and X-Box elsewhere, alright?

So far on the posts, PS2 is the leading favourite, X-Box is still battling it out with GC in terms of fans, though both sides have been moaning about the functions of each. Don't get moaners about the PS2, though Im positive that someone's about to prove me wrong.

On with the predictions.

 

Well no that's not even true anymore Enthasius. All 4 of the next-gen consoles can now perform a higher standard of graphics than even the highest range PCs. I much prefer consoles to PC gaming simply for the fact that you know a game will run when you buy it. I turned to the wonderful world of console gaming because I just got sick of typical PC problems.

 

I think a ton of up-and-coming gamers are going to subscribe to the hype and buy an x-box, little dreaming what they have gotten into. When the dawning realization occurs, thousands of pissed off college students are going to swarm the streets, looting and rioting in every major city of the world. The fumes from the burning console will effectively stifle anyone within a ten mile radius, and the end of the world as we know it will begin.

Or, maybe, the PS2 will continue to outsell the GameCube and the X-Box, but none will die the horrible death that Sega did because there's just to many hardcore fans for one or the other. Or who knows, maybe the PS3 will suck.

 

Well, putting everything in perspective, it would appear Sony has taken the crown. While comebacks are not out of the question, I'm doubting it at this point. Sony PS2 holds a commanding 60 some odd percent of the global console market. Nintendo GC accounts for close to 20, Microsoft Xbox about 16.

It's all about the race for second place. I don't see Xbox having any chance at catching up until the spring. With Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Sonic Collection, Animal Crossing and Resident Evil, the Gamecube has been very strong recently. With the upcoming Zelda, Skies of Arcadia, and Wario World among others coming in January/February, it should continue to be strong. Splinter Cell, Unreal, and MGS2 Substance should give GC a healthy run for its money.

Then springtime, Xbox time. Panzer Dragoon and Ninja Gaiden among others. Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball will give it a healthy "rise" in performance in Japan especially. Whether it's enough to dethrone the Gamecube is another story though. It's possible that Xbox could overtake the GC by Fall. Then again it might not. GC simply has more "mainstream games" while Xbox has more hardcore/niche games. In sales, mainstream wins out. PS2 caters to both. That's how I see it.

Oh and don't get too hyped up over "Cell technology" and other Sony catchphrases. We've all heard about Emotion Engine and Graphic Synthesizer only to realize Nintendo and MS managed to make better systems with off the shelf parts like Pentiums and Power PC chips.

[ November 20, 2002, 03:38: Message edited by: Reislied ]

 

Hold it, This may or may not be Naive, but what the hell is Wonder Swan?

 

A Hand-Held exclusively sold in Japan. Pay it no mind unless you live around there.

 

My point about the power of PC's verses Consoles also includes the PC's ability to be upgraded easier than any console add-on.

I kinda have a broader view of the Power of PC's, since ive recently uber'd it up. I don't mean to brag, im just stating a point.

 

Actually that's cat litter. On a worldwide sale, the X-box is now 2nd place.

 

@Z-Layrex

Are you serious, there is no way a PS2 or XBoX can produce better graphics than a P4 2,8 with 1G RAM, Geforce4 and a Flatscreen monitor

NO FREEKING WAY!!

 

I also wonder how a console can have better graphics than a PC. The console games I have are very different than the PC games, so it's hard to compare apples and oranges, but I think some of my PC games blow away anything on my XBOX.

The resolution on a monitor (1024 x 768 or better) is much higher than any television screen can give you (mind you, I don't know anything about digital TVs). Try to imagine playing Icewind Dale 2 on a television screen. Ugh.

 

From what I could gather, it would seem GC is holding on globally at number 2. While the Box does edge out the Cube in the US, it's wasted in Japan. No one is sure about anything in Europe except that it is close. From where did you get your information that Xbox is number 2? You seem sure of it so I'd like to see.

 

Think about it. USA big, Europe medium, Japan small in terms of area.

The Cube is doing well Japan, and the X Box is doing well USA as they are centres for each. So basically X-Box would be doing better, if only just.

 

The thing is that Cube is selling a decent amount in the US as well. It's not that far behind. Combined with a towering amount in Japan (compared to Xbox anyway), I figure that good sales in US and Japan can counter Xbox's good sales in US and poor sales in Japan. Europe's the deciding factor but I haven't found anything concrete about sales there. According to an article, Gamecube has sold about 7 million globally since it's launch while Xbox has sold about 4 million.

 

Gamecube: Kids
PS2: People who play Final Fantasy
X-Box: Others

Quite frankly, I would never buy a Gamecube, I might buy one of the others. I truly expect Nintendo to lose 90% of it's adult audience because of it.

 

Any and everyone who think every game on the Nintendo Gamecube is for kids is down right retarded to the tenth degree. I spit at thee!

The Resident Evil Series in it's entirety is rated "M"! These games have amazing atmosphere and the freak factor really get into your skin.

Eternal Darkness is also rated "M" and happens to be very innovating and the gameplay is fresh. The fact the game toys with your mind is incredible.

The new Metroid Prime is indeed a winner and could really change Nintendos image if more games of this caliber are produced. I mean this game can really expand the gamecube market, and most likely will.

These are only a few examples. And the whole kiddy image is just that. An image! It has no substainal value in the quality of Nintendos titles. The majority of them are great playing games. And unless you actually frickin' played the Nintendo games and start coming up with some damn good reasons why the game was totally abysmal and ment for kids only, then maybe, just maybe, I won't laugh at your idiocy (ok maybe I still will) At least we can have a comprehensive disscussion, otherwise STFU with the blind flames, because thats all I'm seeing from you guys in regard to Nintendo.

[ November 25, 2002, 05:12: Message edited by: Frog ]

 

I'll grant that Nintendo did a good job buying the Res evil series, but they have had such a long run reputation of creating games of a slightly lower age region, that most will immediatly say that Nintendo only do Kids games.

To break this mould, they would have to bring out more adult games, or bring out an extremly obscure game, similar to GTA, which is the epitome of adult gaming, seeing as it covers many forms of crime, violence, 'courtesans' and bad language.

I may have put my opinion that Nintendo will go software only, but Im still hoping that they keep coming back. I prefer a Japanese system to an American one, seeing as America have only really just begun to show an interest in console systems, bar those ones that didn't do well.

Keep this post alive, its intriguing.

 

Find a book or do a little research on the internet on console history. The video game consoles started in America. There was a period beginning in the mid-80's where most of the popular consoles were created by Japanese consoles, and that's been going on for a while now, but I'd hardly say that America's developing of successful consoles is anything new.

Magnavox Odyssey
Intellivision
Colecovision
Atari (2600)
XBOX
These are just a handful of US console systems that ranged from dominant to fairly popular. Arguing that the Japanes make better consoles, or have more experience at it is kind of ridiculous, IMHO. The games are what sells a system. and Sony had no experience at all with video games before they made the Playstation. But they managed to put together a system that was easy to develop for, and made games people wanted to play. Combine this with some smart marketing and third party licensing, and you had a smash hit. Same thing for Nintendo and the original NES.

 

I mean SERIOUS console creation, y'know, one's that actually have an advert.

By the way, if any consoles were only released in America, I wouldn't know since im English.

 

It didn't get much more serious than those Atari vs Intellivision ads back in the days.I never saw them since they were in the late 70's or early 80's but if you ever read Game Informer, they had an article about it being the first real console war. Both sides hired sports celebs and had commercials comparing the other.

 

Concerning Japanese consoles being better I'm not certain that's entirely accurate (Xbox comes to mind.) The PS2 is supposed to be a real **** to develope games on (one has to write code to utilize three different processors in the PS2 and getting them to work together is tough to say the least.) However, like someone else had stated earlier on this thread it's about the games that each system is selling not about it's hardware. I bought my PS2 for one set of reasons (games) and I bought the Xbox for other types of games.