4000th Topic: Cheating

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Yay! Welcome to the 4000th topic! It's some kinda milestone, I guess. Now, to the topic.

What is y'all's opinion on cheating? Looking at this board, I've noticed alot of people mentioning much about hacking, tweaking, and downright abusing the game.

Cheating is not downloading patches and add-ons and such off the internet. Cheating is using the CLUAConsole to spawn yourself a brand-new shiny Crom Faeyr at the very beginning of the game without earning it yourself, or bumping you exp points to 2 million without fighting for it. Cheating is using the Shadowkeeper to create a character with 25 stats all down the board, who knows every spell, can wear armor, and is immune to every type of status ailment. Cheating is downloading a script that allows you to cast a salvo of Magic Missiles and automatically heal the entire party with a push of the button. Cheating is abusing and mutating the game past it's original intent.

Now, my opinion. Cheating is fine. If it adds a little variety to a game you've played over and over again, then by all means...But the point is: a game you've played OVER and OVER again. If you wanna add in items before you can get them and tweak your stats to god-like heights, do so on at least the second time through the game. Give yourself the chance to beat the game without cheating, you'll feel prouder of yourself that way because you've accomplished something. And if you feel like tweaking and hacking and such, do yourself another favor: Set the game difficulty to the highest level to give yourself somewhat of a challenge. A game's no fun if there's no challenge.

Now that's out of the way, please express your opinion about cheating, for or against it. Come on moderaters, you too, please!

 

Heh, I was going to post the 4000th topic but I got sidetracked by a telephone call. So you get it this time.

Well here is what I think about cheating: Bah! I have never used control + anything. The only one I would try is control q just to be stupid and I haven't even bothered doing that. I did get ShadowKeeper back in the day and used it to replace any items that I was too stupid and lost when my inventory was full. Now I don't even do that, if I loose something tough luck. I don't use SK and just keep it around if I for some reason want to play a female half orc jester .
Now do I care that others cheat? When they are playing multiplayer and the people who are playing with them don't want to, then of course I care. And I am one of those people who doesn't want it. What anyone does on their own is their own thing though. Personally, on repeated run throughs to make the game more "interesting", I turn up the difficulty, put limitations on myself, and resort from cheese tatics. I find this much more entertaining than lowering the difficulty and cranking up the cheats.

 

Hi,

If people want to "cheat" in their own single player game, I don't care. Everyone is different, they paid for the game, if "cheating" gives them more enjoyment, I say more power to them.

When people cheat in a multiplayer game of any description, thats when I care!

Cheers,

WittyNewt.

 

Is that what you think?
Ok, in description says that Crom kills Ettins and Trolls with single hit.

Pal, do you remember Ettin in Underwater City? I assure you that Crom won't kill that Ettin with one stroke. And trolls that fight with some fighters in Druid Grove area? Crom won't kill them with one hit too. These are IMHO not bugs - the game just don't expect you have Crom already while there.

Why are those people cheating then? I mean, why would they get something BEFORE the game expects it?

I'll tell you why:
TO SPAM HOW COO! CHEATING IS.
TO SPAM HOW COO! IS THE FACT THEY CHEATED.

Do I care about it? I do.
Do I think cheaters are gods? Gods don't cheat.
Do I think it is COO!? Save me saying something I could be banned for.

 

I don't cheat and don't care if others do. However, if you do cheat alot, don't complain if the game gets screwed up.

 

You just gave me an idea! Turn a couple of the commoners into superdemons! Only a few, so I won't know which ones, and they'll attack me, and I'll be forced into an interesting fight!
I am at work, so I won't be able to do this t'll later, but now I have something to think on....

 

I wonder if the changed commoners would eat the normal ones.
Let us know.

 

I wonder why everyone is so concerned about whether or not anyone else is cheating. Who cares?

 

if it brings happiness to you then do it. there are some games that i would never use cheats on but some like grand theft auto suck without cheats(ok it sucks anyway but its good for a bit of mindless killing)

 

Tal is very right here. The first time you really should play without cheating. But I can imagine that after the first time you don't wanna play they same way again. Then go can play a different way, to keep the game a challenge. Option to play the game different are: other alignment, totally different characters, solo game, challenges like 966666 or a special party (for example a thief-only party or mage-only party), another option is to go for cheating. In my opinion, Cheating is the lest funny way to achieve great play-time in the game, for the other ways are much more interesting. But, it's all about having fun in the game so when you achieve that with cheating, go for it. But think about this again and next time, try one of the other solutions. You might discover that people here are interested in solo-stories and stories of other cool parties.... I'm afraid interests in stories about cheated parties aren't that high

 

untill yesterday i always used ctrl+q on EVERY enemy i encountered in the game and thought it was extremely funny,
then i decided to create an elven mage without cheating,im only at Jaheira's curse quest but damn this is fun

just realised what i missed by cheating

so if there are any big time cheaters like me out there: Cheat if you wish but it kills the fun, i know this from personal experience

 

Demon commoners? I sense Genitic Modifiying here...

 

Yeah, i cheat..but only in single player. so i guess im fine with ya'll ^_^.

 

I never used the consule thing since I don't like messing with any of that stuff. I used Shadow Keeper to change the appearance of my f/m to a mage though. I don't think that's cheating since it dosen't really have any effect on the game.

By the way, I don't think cheating is bad if you're playing by yourself. It's your game, it was your 50 bucks and you should be able to do WHATEVER you want with it if it makes you happy! This includes smashing the CD and throwing it from the Sears Tower if it makes the purchase enjoyable to you. People hacking on multiplayer and ruining other people's games is a no no though.

 

I figure If you can beat the game on the hardest lvl of dificulty, it's ok to cheat. I beat it my first time through on easy, next on mid, next on hard and have done every quest, diferent outcomes when I can.

So right now (playing TDD), I cheat on stuff like AFTER a battle hit Ctr+R (not during) 'cause I don't feel like carrying huge amounts of pots (been there-done that, now I only cary one I'll use in mid battle)

Also, say you are on the planar sphere next to Lavoks room, and I need to go outside, since I have already checked everything I'll just hit Ctr+J and jump next to the exit.

Thing is, after you play the game a lot, you get a lot more impatient with it.

 

Cheating..huh...Well some do, some dont, I prefer to put myself in the ladder, I rarely cheat, thus if you count making new and your own kits cheating, well then I guess I do, althought I have the "power" to make them invisible with 25 stats, I dont, it kinda takes all the fun out of the game, I only put in new kits and my own, to make the game somewhat more versatile, like ever thought of playing with a Half-Orc Sumo Wrestler or a Gnome Conjurer, but then again, this is my way of playing, which of course differs from yours, just as long as we enjoy it, right

Later

 

I cheat. I admit it.

Why?

I am an extremely impatient person, and my computer acces is severely limited. And I mean severely. So, I use ctrl-J to jump instead of waddle, Ctrl-R if the character is up to his eartips in red, and such. I do not, however, use SK to max stats..: I have only used it to switch appearances and such.

I also sometimes use the explore area cheat...

And I just had to have Artemis Entreri in my party. Couldn't resist.

I have created the summon cow-spell scroll because it's fun. I also have gotten an ID scroll a few times...

I try to not to cheat, but it's just so fun at the times...

On the note of calling things to kill... I think I'll try to find some new ones to beat/cheat/whatever... Like, say, Zak and (M)Alice...

Ara
(Sniffling drow-wannabe and a Lyskalainen)

 

Games like Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, or even deeper into D&D are not meant for INTIMATE PSYCHOLOGY! Play it however you damn well want to! These games are made to get you away from your life's crummy existence and open a lighted pathway of entertainment for you to experience bliss. Entertainment is achieved by any means possible (as we see throughout the development of the human race, but I won't get into that) and, therefore, cheating is irrelevant. It will 'ruin' the 'gaming experience' by 'modifying' the 'meaning' of the game. I say no more of 'these'! Why not cheat? Downloading Shadow Keeper and Gatekeeper didn't kill me - it made me able to change the way my character reacted toward the world around him. If I want to gib a black dragon in one hit, that will give me just as much entertainment to watch the scales fly and uncover the gold. If cheating is a sin, the designers at Bioware and everywhere else would outlaw hacking and the CLUA console for everyone. Experience the game differently - don't conform to the life someone else lived! Learn about Henry David Thoreau (...uhh...) and about the founding fathers of America (...ummmm...).

I say cheat for a cool sword and become an ounce more unique, because ENTERTAINMENT IS WHAT THE GAME WAS DESIGNED FOR! If you aren't entertained, change SOMETHING, for you, by not enjoying the experience, are ruining the game, cheating or no.

 

I cheat occasionally. I do use the jump command, but I limit myself to twice a game say. I use the Console if I lose an item from a bug. I don’t use SK to seriously modify my Char, only to change his appearance and such. Although I did turn my familiar into a panther one time... and I use the console to speed up the romances. But I do it in moderation and i think that is what counts
and by the way Xelaier, you shoud be a poet. i dont really agree completly with what you have said, but damn that sounded good.