War Blade or Vorpal Sword?

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I was just wondering which one do you think is more useful. The Warblade is more powerful but the Vorpal Sword can kill in a single hit. So which do you use?

 

if I recall correctly, the enemies are allowed a saving throw against the death, right?

if that's so, I tihnk I would use the warblade, depends on the enemies though. If it tough enemies with good saving throws, I would use the warblade, if weak saving throws, I would use the vorpal blade.

 

Nah, use vorpal blade. When you're able to get the warblade and vorpal blade your at high enough levels thats a couple of points of damage won't matter. And your thac0 will be pretty low so you'll have lots of hits meaning monsters will have to make lots of saves and eventually they'll fail. I had minsc with the vorpal blade and he would always cast several dooms to lower saves. Course i like the warblade better cause it looks cooler.

Anyways, i think both suck, i would use that evil only 2handed sword in the underdark(the soul taker??) the one that lowers thac0 with each hit.

 

I would say take Warblade, has a much better SF....

Btw, the word is called Soul Reaver and can indeed be used by evil only.

 

Warblade is a mighty weapon: it deals 1d12+4 damage and gives a +4 bonus on THACO. That´s great, especially when you have a mad and very strong ranger in your party (rangers don´t get a THACO as good as fighters iirc). With 6 it has very good initiative for such a big weapon and weighing just 10pd it is pretty light for its size.

The vorpal sword has, except the 25% chance to kill instantly when the saving throw vs. death fails, a THACO bonus of just +3 and deals 1d10+3 damage. With 10 it´s initiative is a wee bit poor. It weighs 15 pounds. It is a great weapon for a pure fighter, especially a kensai.

I used it like Taluntain and Lokken: I put both weapons to the quick weapon slot and choose the weapon depending on the enemy I faced. I actually preferred the warblade to the vorpal sword.

 

The choice in my opinion depends on your playing style.

If you are a slasher-slicer killin machine, use the Warblade.(which looks quite strange in the character's hand; blue glowing thingy)

But if you are one of the roleplayer type(like me, I think), then you definetely would want a vorpal sword for yourself. I personaly prefer this weapon.

[This message has been edited by TIN_MAN (edited June 06, 2001).]

 

the soul reaver is a ripp-off from Legacy of Kain

 

Have You ever thought that the "celestrial Fury" stunned enemies more often than You suspected? If Yes on this You might understand when I choose The Vorpal sword. I think it Slay enemies more often than good is. Often have I seen 3 perhaps 4 enemies slain in row.

ONLY TO POWERPLAYERS

With 3 attacks per round there is 58% chance of forcing the creature to save Vs. Death once per round.Calculation: (1-(3x0,75)%
Most creatures save Vs. spells like Fighters based on their Hit Dice (PnP rules) To give You an Idea on this, Dragons Have from 14-25 HD. A mummie has 6 HD, A Rakshasa 7 HD, A Sahuagin 2 HD, A Lich +11 HD
An Example:
The Lich has 11 HD so saves as an 11 level fighter against Death. It has 7 in Save vs death. It gets a penalty of 2 from the sword. This means 9. this gives a 8/20 chance of failure. Pretty good. All In all 23% pr.calculation 58%x(8/20) Round of Slaying a Lich.
Pretty good. The War blade is only to be preferred by LowLevel characters where Thach0 improvement of 1 is important. And against creatures only struck by +4 weapons. This last reason is enough to have the weapon in the quickitem slot together with the vorpal sword.

I don't know if normal AD&D rules apply. Often they don't in BG-series

[This message has been edited by Nobleman (edited June 06, 2001).]

 

In BG2 liches seem to be immune to the vorpal sword effect, even if they save vs. death as well as the finger of death effect.
Sorry if I be mistaken but ain't liches know 9-th. level mage spells? So they must be at least HD 18, no???

 

I could never pass up the Vorpal Blade - especially with the Robert Carol poem in my head "Jabberwocky"

[Question - if you used the vorpal blade vs a lich successfull, wouldn't you instantly make him a demi-lick! j/k]

Here is the full text to the poem where the Vorpal Blade got it's start. Unless the War Blade has a history in a child's poem, I'm sold on the Vorpal!

*****
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

'Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!'

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought-
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

'And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arns, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

 

The HD-monster system works beyond any
PC-rules. I admit that the Lich was a bad example though. Perhaps the worst example I could use at all!!
Liches are most often wizards of at least 18th that have become undead. Furthermore Undeads may have unique saving throws and immunities to slaying. My bad example doesn't change the fact that many monsters we consider hard actually have a poor saving throw Vs. Vorpal sword.

 

Warblade rules, that's all I have to say, except that when you go for the vorpal sword, you'll meet a wild mage...coooooollll...!

 

Bah, forget the warblade and vorpal sword. Soul Reaver RULES!! Put on the helm of ali change if you can't use it(though you have to cheat to get it ) Another note, monsters can't make all those save vs deaths and the vorpal blade's effect does ignore MR. Imagine getting a lucky instant kill on the dragon in hell. Only reason i liked the warblade was it glows.