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Regarding the Monk

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Carathrax, Jan 22, 2003.

  1. Carathrax Gems: 1/31
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    [​IMG] I have but one simple question that needs to be answered, about the Monk, as you probably have guessed by now.
    In 3rd Edition, Wisdom has alot to say for the Monk. It mostly affects his saving throws and AC. Does this count in 2nd Ed.? Or can I might as well just drop it just like a Fighter would drop Charisma?
    Thanks for any replies. :)
     
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    *thinks*

    no idea :hmm:

    sorry
     
  3. dmc

    dmc Speak softly and carry a big briefcase Staff Member Distinguished Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!)

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    Besides clerics (for the bonus spells) and mages using limited wish or wish, wisdom only aids in lore computation, sorry.
     
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    [​IMG] Thanks! :)
    Now, how does these stats sound for a Human Male Monk?
    18/xx Str
    18 Dex
    18 Con
    10 Int
    13 Wis (which I believe is the minimum)
    10 -> Cha
     
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    I have played a monk once. I would drop INT to 6 and add everything you have left to CHA. The only thing that effects AC is DEX so keep that on 18.
     
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    max str for monks is 18 in creation..better than that,you can get only /w belts(or lum,or hell tests)
     
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    I recommend the opposite of Xyphys: drop CHA as low as possible and raise INT.

    The Ring of Human Influence (sets CHA to 18) is found very early in the game (likely before you make any significant purchases). The drawback is you have to lug the ring with you forever, which can be done with a Gembag.

    Even if you made INT 6 and CHA 14, you'd probably use to Ring to get CHA 18 anyways... so why not get the added INT on top of it?
     
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    Maybe in the beginning you use the Ring of Human Influence, but there are better rings in the game. For example the Ring of Gaxx and the Ring of Earth Control (+1 AC).

    When you are facing Mind Flayers, a high INT would come in handy, but a low AC is IMO better.

    Just do what you like best.
     
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    In regards to Monk and 3rd ed AD&D rules, etc, etc, etc.

    Well, with the classes in BG2, which we all know is based on 2nd ed rules. The following 3 classes aren't classes in the normal terms, they're actually in existence kits:
    Sorcerer
    Monk
    Barbarian

    The Sorcerer is a mage kit, and doesn't even equate to what sorcerers are in 3rd ed, cos under 3rd ed, they're not a kit they're a class of their own, due to how they cast and memorise spells.

    The barbarian is simply a fighter kit, and AD&D changed it in 3rd ed from a kit to a proper class

    The monk well under 2nd ed it's a fighter kit, hence why you get D'Arnise as your stronghold. Just monks were given their own class like the former two mentioned above, and not kits, under 3rd ed, and they gave monks their ac bonus with wis under 3rd.

    Mind you there is some 3rd ed implemented in BG2, but that's to be mentioned in a different forum. I'd rather not get told off a second time, for mentioning things in appropriate forums :o

    Jono.

    PS. Sorry again moderators.
     
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    Always consider the rest of the party you intend to take as well.

    Always a different build for solo etc. Hmm wouldn't like the start for a solo Monk, but half way through chapter 2 he/she'd be a killing machine.
     
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    Using the ring of human influence will raise your charisma, but it takes up an item slot and you can wear two rings of protection if it is not worn to lower AC. So an medium cha is preferable.
     
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    You can spot-use the ring of human influence for those times that you interact with someone with something other than your sword. Otherwise, it sits in inventory. If you are powergaming there is absolutely no reason to have charisma higher than 3 for a monk. If you are roleplaying, I cannot fathom why you would take any stat that low.
     
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    Me too, I couldn't stand making my character a moron. A pity BG2 isn't like the Fallout series of games where intelligence has a major role in dialog. Even a 1 charisma & 1 intelligence half-orc barbarian has the same dialog lines as a 18 intelligence Mage 90% of the time.

    [ January 28, 2003, 11:06: Message edited by: Lord Sarevok ]
     
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