My first dragon - need help plz...

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hi there !
I´m in the temple ruins (chapter two - umar hills quest) - i got the symbol of amaunator to pass the dragon Thaxll'ssyllia without need to fight. But it is my first dragon, so i wanna kill the beast.
i only got one breach spell, but even my fighters dont do any damage...
can you plz help me without cheating...
TIA
TheG0riffin

 

use the search engine...

this subject have been talked a hundread times here...

Chris

 

thx
did you just skip killing the dragon...
TheGriffin

 

You can kill it, it depend on your party members and the equipment and spell you use when you fight the dragon... but as I said in my previous post, with the search engine, you'll find a lot of way to kick his ass

Have a nice day,
Chris

 

General pointers for dragonslaying:
-Summon as many fodder as you can (Especially recommended are FireElementals and Mordenkainen's Swords)
-Get the Dragonslayer Gear (Windspear Hills)
-Surround the dragon with all fighters/fodder you can get, because then he cannot blast everyone away with his Wings in one swoop
-Use Breach/Spellthrust/RemoveMagic, or higher level Spellprotection removers.
-Keep your mages well away from the dragon.
-Dope up your fighters with Bless/Haste/Strength/Aid etc.
-You can take it on a more magic approach, by casting lower resistance, and then hit him fast with lots of spells like MagicMissile, Lightning Bolt, Acid Arrows.
-If you have any charm protections, get them on your fighters. It's really annoying to have one of them charmed, and on the opposite side. (though a good Dispell Magic will fix it.
-Don't be afraid pulling a wounded fighter out of the battle to be healed by a cleric/pots


There's a lot more, but this should do for a while You don't necessarily need breach, you can dispell stoneskin by hitting him a lot of times, though that period he'll be able to hurt you, while you can't return the favor

 

And remember Griffin, for the most part you need enchanted weapons, with a +1 or +2. (the number depends on the dragon). If you have the Sword of Chaos +2 (in irenicus' dungeon) that heals the wielder gradually, its very good.

Faragon's Tactics above are very useful, but remember;
- If you have any Sequencers or Contingencies, USE THEM, it will make a big difference where you cans pend that time casting other spells.
- Dont be afraid to use Potions or Wands.

Have fun dragon-slaying!

 

Also, you can wimp out and use Cloudkill and Death Fog spells without arousing his wrath - although he's magic resistant they do sometimes get through and cause damage. Every little bit helps!

 

Okay because i did complain i want to share this unique moment with you...
After 4 and a half hours i beat this dirty bastard...
it was hard for me (once i killed it but the shadow dragon killed minsc - i could not accept that) and then i used a lot the wand of flightning and the spell wyvern...
suddenly it was pretty easy, my fighters just using missile weapons, my clerics and wizards casting spell as hell, (a lot of summoning monsters)...that was it...
thx for your help...
btw: i am glad and proud not using tricks like traps ...

 

Why would you consider using traps a trick? For this encounter you are given a wardstone that makes you undetectable to the Dragon. Therefore, the cheese associated with trap use is not present by design.

 

I know this issue has been debated to the Nth degree, but - IMHO, throwing out a few disabling traps in front of a rampaging Shadow Dragon is not cheating. Is it exploiting a favorable situation to one's own advantage? Sure. Is that cheating? No. I maintain that Wardstone was placed there for a reason - to make we adventurers more difficult to see, therefore more difficult to kill. It was put there so we could discover Thaxissilixia (whatever) and prepare accordingly - using all available means at our disposal. (Including hasting, aid, pets, traps, etc!)

 

i didnt say setting a trap is cheating, i called it a ´trick´.
yes i agree that that the wardstone was given for a reason - to pass the dragon without fighting and, okay for setting some traps - but not setting traps - rest - setting traps.
i think its a question about the way each of us likes to play rpgs. i wouldnt like tricks like that - if its okay for you, then its fine - its fine - i do not blaim you for the way you play the game
so greetings anf have fun
TheGriffin

 

Traps are just a cheap trick.

What a lame way to kill a dragon. You think that Firkraag would figure things out after a group of annoying adventurers camped in his lair for 19 days.


I proudly killed all dragons in the game without using any lame trick. Just protective magic and summonings.

One method I have tried but dont like is the Chromatic Doom method (Actually my version should be called Chromatic Mallison)

Use a spell sequencer and put Two Greater Mallisons and a Chromatic Orb in.
The Mallisons will lower the dragons saving throw vs. spell by 8, and the chromatic orb (provided you are over level 12) will insta kill the dragon.
(The original method used the Preist Spell Doom instead of Mallison)

 

I advise you combo of one greater malision and one doom. You see, greater malision is not cumulative by itself. In combination with doom works miracles.

 

3xlower magic resistance
1x greater malison

to finish the b*st*rd of cast finger of death.(it should die immidiatly)

 

Yeah, traps are tricks. Never use them, myself. For that matter, the wardstone is a trick. Won't have any of that nonsense in my party, no sir. Magic weapons? Never. I'll fight those dragons to the last with my bare hands, and I don't even have a monk. Armor? You candy-asses wear armor? Real BG2 players don't go in for that kind of nonsense. Spells? Healing? If they aren't cheese, I don't know what is...

 

Dragons are often a challenge. They become less of a challenge when you are high level - spell trigger: lower resistance, lower resistance, greater malison followed by finger of death.

I believe the point of Gonzago's humurous sarcasm is that traps are another effective weapon in the gaming arsenal. There are certain situations where traps can be used by a Role Player in the game, and the shadow dragon is one. A high level thief SHOULD be able to scout out the enemy, set traps, and lure the enemy into them. That's not cheesy at all. An example of cheesy is setting traps around a spawning location when the ONLY reason you know that location is because of the previous reload! Take away the trap setting, and thiefs become less effective.

Another issue about traps and dragons - Elmonster did a wonder with many skull traps, and some summoned monsters to hold the dragon inside the Cloud Kill (rather than the cheese tactic of Cloud Kill out of the dragon's sight - as if any DM would allow you to get away with that PnP!

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casting finger of death, disintegrate or 12+ orbs is so lame, dragon figts are supposed to be heroic battles, no lame magical assinations.
just use lots of magic missiles instead.
(4 atime looks cool too)
Beeh

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Nice to see people expressing their views!
I see, yes... very good point Vier
So TheGriffin...how did killing the mighty beast go?

 

My game must be messed up, because I just walked up to it, had a chat and then just hacked the thing apart with Carsomyr. No magic. What's wrong with my game?