Done! **Spoilers**

yea, Bishop did betray me, but because of my diplomacy at the very end, I managed to make him stand back and not fight me. That was funny - selfish little whore.

 

The ending was quite weak and uninteresting. For some reason Obsidian games always feel more or less incomplete. But as the game was playable overall, I might still get the expansion pack, if they make any. Depending on what kind of expansion pack it is, of course. There is the possibility for a decent high level continuation as well, just have to hope that they would do it right this time.

 

Bishop always betrays you at the Keep battle. The end battle gives you the chance to get him to walk away rather than fight against you. For female PCs he confesses a bit of mild romance. Either Qara or Sand will betray you -- you can't keep both. You can lose the Construct if your influence isn't high enough with Grobnar. There is apparently an evil ending in which case you join Bishop in killing pretty much all your henchmen.

 

Hm, I was a bit confused by the conversation with Garius. First, Neeshka said that she had resisted the torture etc. because she knew I would come. But then she turned to Garius. Hmpf.

Qara betrayed me, which was a great loss. Khelgar and Qara has been the backbone of my group through-out the entire game. It was especially hard since I had acutally not played with Sand since he was like lvl 14-15 or something. He had no 8th or 9th level spells, only half his spell slots picked etc. Atleast he got them back before the fight with The King of Shadows.

Overall it was a really good game. I'd fancy myself an evil ending, as in KotOR, though I'm hoping that this ending will bring an expansion.

 

With my Chaotic Evil Rogue/Assassin, I wasn't able to get an evil ending where i sided with Bishop even though I had probably more influence then anybody else(not saying much as I had bugger all influence with anybody!), but I was able to convince him not to fight me.

Sand betrayed me, (little bastard!), but my assassin slaughtered him before he got a spell off! I therefore kept Qara, but Neeshka betrayed me as well. Not too surprising considering I hardly ever used her since I had the rouge levels for getting passed every annoying trap or locked item in the game.

 

I completed this game with a wood elf fighter(12)/weapn master(7)/Neverwinter nine(1), wielding a scythe +5 with 1d6 acid damage, and 2d6 vs evil damage. I got near or above 200 criticals so killing was easy. And I used diplomacy (cross-class skill) with supporting items, intimidate and lore to my advantage. My wood elf had 20str 14 dex 16 con 13 int 8 wis 10 cha in the end. As for companions I kept everyone except bishop who chose not to fight on either side and qara who I was more than happy to get rid of! Being a member of the neverwinter nine was good and I like the neverwinter nine outfit (best looking armour in the game).

 

Finished the game yesterday with an Aasimar Paladin 15/Champion 5.

The OC was better than the NWN1 OC but as have already been mentioned it felt kinda like watching a movie with all the cutscenes. And the scenes kinda spoiled the game by revealing the bad guys plan before your character actually found out about them.

And while on the subject of bad guys, at the end of the game I kinda felt that I had no idea who the King of Shadows was and why he sought to engulf the world in shadow.

Most of the followers were good and most them had good voiceacting. But the thing that really annoyed was how the game forced certain followers upon you in certain part of the game. My Paladin being forced to travel alongside an evil ranger and a warlock is just so wrong in many ways. And the AI sucked!

I didn't encounter any major bugs during my run through the game and I'd give the game 7.2/10

Oki doke, now I'm of to play the game with a CE Blackguard

Oh and I hope you haven't had too hard a time trying to understand my english

 

well -- just finished it. I have to say, the voicing at the end was a huge disappointment. The battle was typical for NWN and didn't hold much mystery. But the voicing, the epilogue -- a disaster, in my view. And...up until that point, I thought the dialogue and voicing were the HIGH points of the game -- they were truly outstanding -- up until the very end. And whatever happens to Bishop?? He's never seen again, nor is his desmise indicated, as he was never with the group in the final battle.

Qara and Neeshka both turned traitor...and of course Bishop.

 

I only lost Sand to the King of Shadows. Neeshka didn't betray me and I got Bishop to stand down. I think that is the best posable outcome.

 

You're guaranteed to lose either Qara or Sand. They are opposites and you can't please one without annoying the other, even if you don't use them much in the party.

 

With a decent influence guide it would be possible to cycle people in and out of the group for max influence. Don't have Neeshka in your party when you're getting Shandra's portrait e.g. (You can transfer your Shandra influence 1:1 to Ammon by making him regret his choices), but that's hardly necessary for the best possible solution (only Q turning)

 

Despite my idnorance for AD&D rules and basic game mechanics, I finished the game yesterday.
I used a built suggested somewhere on this site, Fighter (5), Wizard (5), Eldrich Knight (10) - which worked like a charm!
I had to do the final battle twice, since my game crashed. Knowing that Q would turn on me, I wasted all her spells and took her good items, while encumbering her at the same time with leftover Full Plate Armor etc. Ammon turned out to be a match winner for me in the final battle, especially against the multiple little Kings of Shadow. His unlimeted aoe spells were most welcome.

 

I finished this on Tuesday. I'm wondering why Neeshka chose to betray me, though, since when I first entered the room where she was, I had a dialogue where it said "Influence: Success". Bishop and Qara's betrayals were expected, though, and Ammon Jerro's dedication to defeating the King even though I had little influence with him was impressive. I found the ending a little disappointing, though, especially after all I had gone through to get there.

I was thinking about running through again with a Wizard/Eldritch Knight, though I can't seem to motivate myself to get past Fort Locke. One of the good things about KotOR 2 was that, whilst it was far too short, you could get a full party and a bit of freedom quite early on.

 

Finished it today with a Fighter 16/Neverwinter Nine 4.

Had high enough influence with Neeshka so she didn't betray me. Good thing, she was carrying a Holy Adamantine +5 Rapier

Qara did, but Sand nailed that spoiled little brat with a couple of Finger of Deaths and Zhjaeve helped with Implosion. Easy target practice.

Bishop ran away, guess I had enough influence with him to respect me.

I had sky high influence with the rest of them so no surprises there.

I crafted 2 Holy Adamantine Rapiers +5, one for Neeshka and one for Elanee. A Holy Cold Iron Morningstar +5 of Disruption for Zhjaeve. A Holy Adamantine +5 Longsword and a Holy Cold Iron Longsword +5 of Disruption for myself. So I was somewhat covered in the weapons department. Not to mention the armor department where I crafted quite a few things also.

I enjoyed the game immensely. Much more than NWN1. Good graphics, nice sound, entertaining quests, a good story and entertaining and useful NPC's.

Allthough the voice casting for the end sequence somewhat lacked, I liked it. Not so much different from NWN1 or IWD2, so for me it was okay.

Of course there is still a lot of bugs needing attention, but I am not surprised there either. There is still quite some bugs in the BG series, PS:T and NWN1.

I am aware I am not very PC, but I don't want to bash a good game

 

I think the dialog you pick can result on her turning on you regardless. Don't quote me on that though.

 

Finished the game yesterday with a Cleric 19/Warpriest 1. Lost Sand but managed to persuade Neeshka back into the party. Couldn't influence Bishop enough but made him see the truth of the situation - he refused to be a lackey for Garius and walked away. He at least made me feel good by telling Garius that he will be the one to die in the ensuing battle.

Had a lot of fun with many a chuckles and a few occasions where I laughed out loud at the antics of my companions. I so wanted to believe Grobnar that the Wendersnavens do exist; oh well, maybe in the expansion.....

The ending affected me quite a bit. I was so attached to my party that to lose them that way made me feel sad. I had actually started another campaign with a wizard but now I'm not sure if I want to build her up just to lose her again.

One improvement I'd like to see is the ability to access all companions' inventories when at the Flagon or at Crossroad Keep. I spent hours shuffling items amongst them every time I changed companions or get a new one. Ever since the raid on the Sunken Flagon, I try to level everyone up as soon as possible and keep them as well equipped as I can. This means that when I find a good set of armor, I get to hand mine down to Zhjaeve, whose armor then goes to Casavir, who then hands his armor to Elanee, whose Elven chainmail can now be worn by Grobnar.... and so on Oh wait, I forgot Ammon can wear light armor too - and so I go back re-shuffling again.

edit: spelling