New Party - Suggestions or requests.

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I'm going to start a new party. It will be either 2 or 3 man. I know I need a barbarian, but I have 1 (maybe) 2 other slots open.

I'll submit gains per chapter and everything else. I want this to be informative when it's done. It will be on normal mode, 0 mods, and anything goes.

 

Sorcerer\paladin, and a cleric of sorts.

 

Wild Elf Bard(1)/Sorc(x), always one of my favorites, with rapid shot and bow feats on the beginning, bard items and all talking skills, and firepower later on. I always chose the sexy redhead picture as well

 

Create only a party of 2, make the second character a pure class rogue to test the usefulness of use magic device.

 

Hmm that sounds interesting. Pure rogue? No Mo? Should he be dual wield daggers?

 

A wizard with mix-in levels in Rogue and something warriorish (Paladin is my fav) and cleric with a late (halfway HOF mode) Monk mix-in quite handily mop the floor with anything the game can throw at you.

Three-man parties and especially duos WILL stumble upon the "no exp for kills" soft cap, but if you want to carry on despite this, I'd be interested to know how far they actually get by the end of the Normal mode.

 

Pure rogue. No need to lower BAB, sneak attack damage and UMD skill with a monk level. I'd take a max strength high damage build to speed up the game, slow battles are boring. For doing the most damage you have to take a feat in greatswords, greataxes or polearms, but weapon style is not as important as strength.

 

Thanks guys,

@kmonster, that sounds extremely interesting. I'm going to try it. As for my second character i'm going to go Paladin.

@SirRechet
What's a good Paladin build I should try

Spoiler

(so I get the sword in chapter 5 of course)

I'm going 2 man. I'll probably submit gains and stuff at the end of chapter 3 and right before the climax in chapter 6.

 

If you want to keep both characters pure and choose non-ECL races I suggest the following: (str-dex-con-int-wis-cha)

Wild elf paladin 18-14-14-1-12-17
Human rogue 18-17-16-12-4-9

I'd only raise strength at level up since dealing out damage is fun and important.
I suggest uneven charisma because Oswald can make winter wolf hats.
The rogue can wear a +1 dex ring early and the +5 dex slippers late in the game.

About the paladin:
Pure class for deadlier smite evil and more effective special abilities.
14 dex so (s)he can still use feats which require 13+ dex after drinking the potion of holy transference.
Don't take more than 12 wis, with potion of holy transference, paladin quest bonus and every god's ring it will be raised to 20.
Con is a little more useful than cha but using the cha-based paladin special abilities is more fun.
I'd put all the paladin skill points into stealth.

 

Has anyone ever gotten any use out of the smite evil other than similar fireworks one gets when casting DUHM or drinking Spirit essence?

I've tried it only a few times, but never had any to hit or damage bonus. The character attacks, hits and does simply normal amount of damage all the time. This leads to the question: what, if anything, smite evil actually does? I've never used it with a character who has less than 18 CHA.

 

@Thurisaz
I'm right at the end of chapter 3 and my smite evil is pretty much a guranteed 60 dmg hit if not more (averaging about 25-40 otherwise).

I'll be submitting gains and stuff a little later tonight probably.

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Prologue:

Lady Aphex - Level 4 9813/10000

Lord Heartwork - Level 4 9738/10000


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End of Chapter 1:

Lady Aphex (rogue): Level 11 56057/66000 [48% of total kills]

Lord Heartwork (paladin): Level 11 55658/66000 [51% of total kills]

*NOTES* fire pots (trolls). This is an expensive party. Pots. Pots. Pots & more Pots. Move Silently on both characters is essential.


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End Of Chapter 2:

Lady Aphex (rogue): Level 14 100640/105000 [47% total kills]

Lord Heartwork (paladin): Level 14 100193/105000 [52% total kills]

*NOTES* Lysara & Sherincal battles exceptionally difficult with this party.


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End Of Chapter 3:

Lady Aphex (rogue): Level 15 116190/120000 [49% total kills]

Lord Heartwork (paladin): Level 15 115735/120000 [50% total kills]

*NOTES* Obviously I'm not gaining at this point and the difficulty modifier for higher levels is almost rediculous. Say you'll fight a spawn of 5 or 6 mobs (with a 6 man party) with a higher level 2 man party this same spawn will be around 15 -18 mobs. Use Magic Device is becoming less useful, and my paladin is kinda soft. I'll post another update at the end of chapter 6.

 

Which races, stats and weapon styles did you choose for your characters ?

When did you use UMD and how were the chances for a successful UMD check ?

How do you handle the battle squares ?

 

Which races, stats and weapon styles did you choose for your characters ?
My Rogue is human, paladin is wild elf. Rogue is using Great swords (already put points in the modifiers). Paladin is using basically the best 2 handed weapon I can find until I get my sword in chapter 5 (at which point I will start putting points in his modifiers)

Stats are exactly as we discussed above.


When did you use UMD and how were the chances for a successful UMD check ?

The chances are actually extremely good. the problem is that the scrolls I need most often are only sold on vendors 1 at a time. In order for this skill to be alot more functional I feel like vendors should carry bulk scrolls, and the wands I've found (for the most part) are not what I need. *Also, the books at the Monastery in Chapter 4 didn't work with '18' UMD. Which is something I was hoping for when I rolled this character, either way, my paladin is using them.*

How do you handle the battle squares ?

I only went to level 4 of the squares to get the MA & +electric boots. I would have completed it if the "Unlimited Heals" vendor had been before it, unfortunately it wasn't.

 

At the battlesquares you can win an item for the UMD skill, the wand of the dead.

You can pay Zak for casting "stoneskin" and "improved invisibility" to protect your paladin for the battle squares (cheaper than buying healing afterwards) and use mostly ranged attacks (5 attacks per round with rapid shot at paladin level 16) to avoid getting hurt.

 

I have read lots of posts here on IWD2, but I have never seen anyone talk about using Zak as a Spell-vending-machine for the Battlesquares. I just searched and it is mentioned in a few discussions. Can't believe I missed that one. now, the chronic restarter in me will be loading IWD2 back up tonight. I know I have a save or two with parties just entering the Fight with Sherincal. Thanks kmonster!

 

So, I'm at the Yuan-ti temple and I'm assuming I can't get the xp inside because this paladin isn't able to wear the initiates robe?

I've been here before with a paladin and he could wear it just fine, why can't this one?

 

Yea he's pure, so I have to go in and just kill everyone and vacate the xp I could have gotten? I've already tried taking the rogue in alone (didnt work), I also tried taking them both inside and leaving the paladin in an inconspicuos spot and that also didnt work.

This sucks mostly because I need the xp in there & I wont get any off the mobs.

 

Did you try sneaking with your rogue to the Yuan-ti leader in the north for negotiating about peace ?
My solo barbarian without diplomatic skills got her only dialogue XP there.

If you need the XP from the other dialogues dying (just get interrupted resting) and getting resurrected is not difficult for your paladin.

 

@kmonster

Yea, I just went ahead and did what you said with the boss in the Northeast. Guess i'll just take a few losses and move on. Atleast I got 'some' xp.