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What is the best (IYO) paladin class?

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Lord Sarevok, Nov 15, 2001.

  1. Von_Allaire Gems: 1/31
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    [​IMG] Cavalier Mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Classical Knight
    The closest kit to a realistic knight.
    And if you have the holy avenger and the vorpal sword you're more like, King Arthur, with separated Excalibur that is... I sure love to see these two weapons forged into a single sword.
     
  2. Feirhanith Dengeird Gems: 4/31
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    [​IMG] some mega sword that would be. you could dispense any foe with a single swing.

    No more heads....you have no more legs...where have you gone?....EVERYWHERE!!
     
  3. War Nerve

    War Nerve And it took me back to something that I'd lost

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    Cavaliers are my favorite.


    PS. Humm...tell me if I'm wrong here, but I didn't think paladins could use that amulet given by Aran...I think I read most of the text in the posts underneath Sarevok's, but if someone else said this and I missed it, then sorry.

    [This message has been edited by War Nerve (edited November 17, 2001).]
     
  4. wittynewt Gems: 7/31
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    Hi,

    Amulet of power, not usable by fighter or thief. This does not stop rangers or paladins wearing it of any multi or dual class options as long as its not a fighter/thief!

    Cheers,

    WittyNewt.

    Amulet of Power
    This amulet bears the signature enchantments of Conster Damon, an archmage that fell in the Year of the Dracorage (1018DR). The crispness of its etchings may have faded with fire and time, but it still echoes his famous defiant cries: "Your magic denied!" "I will be heard!" "Defeat comes swiftly!" "Take nothing from me!" It has seen much use, and changed hands many times through blood and battle.

    STATISTICS

    While Equipped:
    Magic Resistance: +5%
    Vocalize
    Decrease Spell Casting Speed by 1
    Immunity to Level Drain

    Not Usable By:
    Thief
    Fighter
     
  5. War Nerve

    War Nerve And it took me back to something that I'd lost

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    Hmmm...well, why is it red to my Cavalier??
     
  6. Satanatron Gems: 1/31
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    [​IMG] 5 mins Witty???

    Ha ha ha ha ha!
    I very much doubt it.

    S



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    Inquisitor. He has the best immunities, and the best bonus spells. True, the Cavalier's lack of missile weapons is no great restriction, but they gain what? Priest spells up to level, um, 4?! A really pathetic Turn Undead ability? IMHO, the Inquisitor is the only kit which gives advantages worth making sacrifices for; Dispel Magic can be really useful and True Sight is PRICELESS.
     
  8. wittynewt Gems: 7/31
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    [​IMG] Hi,

    War Nerve, well Amulet works on Keldorn, Minsc and my undead hunter (not that he needs it :) ) plus many others so I don't know why it doesn't work for your cavalier.

    Satanatron, how can you possibly say that killing the undead using weapons will be quicker than "turn undead" if you have a high level cleric, its just nonsense :).

    Lets add it up shall we?

    30 undead. Your party is surrounded. Assume that you have three top notch fighters and you opt to beat on them.

    Lets be very generous and say you fighters can kill two undead per round each, pretty unlikely really. Hence, thats six per round, thats 5 rounds to kill them all. Minimum 30 seconds (6 seconds per round)

    Enable Turn undead, 6 seconds later the undead are gone if your cleric is high level.

    Now add a few of minutes of fiddling because your fighters took some damage, maybe some strength points sapped, levels drained etc etc. Wouldn't want to go into the next fight half cocked would we.

    Just try turn undead with Anomen when he gets up to lvl 15 or so (if you can bear him that is :) ) and then let me know what you think of it.

    But please, don't just dismiss an ability as rubbish just because you don't use it and it doesn't suit your playing style, it just makes you look foolish. :D

    Cheers,

    WittyNewt.





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  9. Satanatron Gems: 1/31
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    [​IMG] "How can you possibly say that killing the undead using weapons will be quicker than "turn undead" if you have a high level cleric"

    I dont believe I said that Witty. However, if I did say something to that effect, there is a simple reason why I can say that killing the undead using weapons will be quicker than "turn undead" if I have a high level cleric. The answer is I'm good. Hehehe.

    S
     
  10. War Nerve

    War Nerve And it took me back to something that I'd lost

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    Hmm, yeah, I'm not sure why it won't work for my cavalier. Does anybody know?
     
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    Hi Satanatron,

    Well, oh great undead smashing master :D share with us your wisdom and explain to me how your fighters can kill more than two undead per round? I feel I was being very generous there and even then it would take you fighters 30 seconds of real time compared to 6 seconds for my cleric for 30 undead.

    Unless you have equiped all of your party with mace of disruption? :D

    I agree with your tactics if you only have a few undead to deal with and/or your cleric is below lvl 15, however with massed undead and a high level cleric, the fastest way is either spells (sunray etc) or "turn baby turn".

    Either way, I can see that there is no persuading you, :D

    Take care

    Cheers,

    WittyNewt
     
  12. Satanatron Gems: 1/31
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    [​IMG] Hiya Witty.

    Yeha, you are right, 2 undead a round per character at most I estimate. Sunray, and "turning" are the quickest methods I suppose.

    That granted, I have a tendency to exaggerate my characters powers. I guess it all comes from my father, ya know, he got cast out of heaven and all that crap for his own vanity, and well I think it just runs in the family. Hehehe. Like father like son.

    But when would you ever fight anymore than 4 undead simultaneously? Bohdi's lair yes, but when where would you fight more than that? Answer - it doesnt happen too often in SoA. My four fighter/cleric/theif charaters could take them out swiftly without turning, and I'm sure yours could too.

    But my underlying message is I dont use turning and I dont like it no matter of effectiveness, I still think it's trash. I guess what matters in the end is if it complements your playing style or not.

    Anyways, Inquis is best Pally (he's got no tunning undead, hehehe) simply because he has "true sight" ability.

    See ya in hell.
    S

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  13. wittynewt Gems: 7/31
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    [​IMG] Hi,

    Yep, you don't see massed undead too often on SOA. I can think of about 5 times, Umar a couple of times, bodhi's lair x 2, unseeing eye quest.

    So far my first party in TOB has met massed undead twice.

    One cheesy xp gathering method I wondered about was Umar and those shadows that continously spawn if you don't activate the crystal. I am going to take Anomen there in a few days, he will be lvl 12 then and see how how many he can pop before I get bored :D

    Cheers,

    WittyNewt.
     
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