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Alignment question (odd)

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Zaragoth, Jul 14, 2001.

  1. Zaragoth Guest

    [​IMG] I promise you all that this will be my last annoying Fighter/Cleric question.
    The odd question is this; If I want my Fighter/Cleric to be Lawful Good, is it a bad idea to bring these?:
    Korgan
    Edwin
    Jan
    Minsc
    And someone more, perhaps Valygar or Keldorn?

    I´m just asking if you believe that a man of goodness and faith would be willing to plunder Korgans grave or do Edwins quest and so on? Reply if you wish.
    thx.
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    ( Man, I can NEVER EVER decide on anything... :mad: )
     
  2. Jander Sunstar Gems: 2/31
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    Well if you were playing a tabletop AD&D game and if I was the DM I wouldn't allow you to go graverobbing without a just cause. But, in the case of BG: SoA you can do that, I was a Paladin and I went graverobbing even without a necessary quest. Doing work for the shadow thieves, working for Maevar, stealing weathermistresses holy symbol, I think, do not go well with a Paladin but you can still do it without having to worry about an alignment shift. The only thing you should keep in mind is that, do not have Keldorn and Viconia at the same party, they end up fighting and Keldorn killing Viconia.
     
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    I'd say you'd rather choose chaotic good alignment when you want to have Edwin & Korgan in your group. Both will leave your party iirc when your rep reaches 18 (due to their evil alignment).
    Beeing lawful good you might have some problems with a red wizard of Tay in your party while you still yould argument that looting the grave just means cleaning a tomb from evil undead - a honourable deed for a good aligned priest.
    Keldorn would be a good addition to your party. Since you are a fighter-clerich yourself Anomen is obsolete. Valygar sucks. How about Mazzy? She's great. And with Imoen you'll have the full mage you might like to have.
     
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    In my games that fight always ends with dead Keldorn :p

    Besides, that DM thing is idiotic, why paladin won't take evil ones in party - he can always show them the right way and try to change them into at least neutral alignment.
    And if they don't listen, he can always add them to his list of punished evil ones.
     
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    [​IMG] You are right Extremist. I apologize for giving fals advice to you Zaragoth.

    Honourable Sir Belisarius chose the only valid way by trying to convert viconia to the good path. Priests are always keen to convert people into believers. So follow Sir Bel's path and allow Edwin and Korgan to join your party - if they mock about rep-17 : Kill them for their alignment ! :D
     
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    [​IMG] Ragusa...LMAO! :D ;)
     
  7. Zaragoth Guest

    Isn´t LN pretty much the same as LG?
    LG want´s to follow the laws and so do LN.
    Or am I wrong? :rolleyes:
     
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    Zaragoth: LG are interested in following the law, but for the interests of good. LN will follow the law because it's the law, regardless of good or evil. So an LG would not follow a law that is obviously evil, or incorrect -- an LN would.
     
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    [​IMG] I think that if you want to have an interesting game, go fer it.
    If you happen to be interested in keeping your PC good then don't take them unless you feel you have the divine power to change thier views on life (seeing how you are the child of Bhaal, I hope you do).
     
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    Yes a VERY interesting game. Just watch out for Minsc and Edwin.
     
  11. Zaragoth Guest

    What happens between Minsc and Edwin? I have not played with those two together before :p
     
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    ***looting the grave just means cleaning a tomb from evil undead - a honourable deed for a good aligned priest.*** (taken from Ragusa's post)
    Yes cleaning undead is good but as a LG priest you should not open up every coffer and loot it's treasures...
    And extremist what's idiotic about the DM thing?
     
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    Hmmm... thinking this one through... If your character is lawful good, then definitely she would not loot tombs. But people in your party have their own personalities and when you are playing by yourself you need to role-play them too. So if your hero is a lawful good paladin, and she is destroying undead as they rise from their graves, my guess would be that any chaotic neutral characters in the party would be snatching up the loot every time her back was turned. Sure, the paladin has sternly told them not to, but chaotic troops ignore rules anyway, when they can get away with it.

    ... hee hee hee... I have finally come up with a role-playing justification to pocket Daystar!
     
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    Odd. But it sounds fun I think I'll give it a go.
     
  15. Zaragoth Guest

    [​IMG] I wanted to inform you people that I´m going for the Lawful Neutral alignment consider the people I´m gonna use in my party.
    thx for all the answers! :D They are appriciated.
     
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    Bah, who would ever want to play a lawful character, unless it was a Paladin? Being lawful is just asking for trouble because you always have to justify your actions. I prefer neutral because it allows you to be much more flexible without being foolishly chaotic or having to adhere to "rules". I hate those "rules" :D
     
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    Actually, I think it's the "lawfulness" that would make a paladin reject the idea of taking something from a grave, not the "goodness." I think a good person would much rather take something from a tomb than from a living person who might be hurt by missing the item. The corpse won't care, and if it does care it's because it's an evil lich that should be slain anyway. And if the item in question is something like Daystar, it's just going to be used for good deeds anyway, right?

    I think a lawful-neutral person would balk at taking stuff off a lich's tomb more than a neutral-good person.
     
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    About the "cleansing a tomb of evil undead". How do you know that they're there when you're not - like the tree in the woods scenario. It could be that the dead people are only reanimated because some ham fisted fool comes stomping around their graves and disturbing their rest. So you could be disturbing the eternal rest of the dead, to kill them again. Not something many paladins want on their conscience.
     
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    Paladin: "Hey let's go and check this tomb too, there might be evil undead."
    (Actually he means: hey there might be new treasures let's check it out")
    Squire: "But sir we have already desecrated 30 tombs, can't we go and rest"
    Paladin: "We can't rest until all undead are cleansed"
    (Actually he means: Well we still have 1000g more to collect for the Shield we saw in Ribalds place)
    Squire: "Yes sir"
    After a while....
    Undead: "Look mister shiny armor we are trying to rest here, will you leave us alone"
    Paladin: "BEGONE EVIL CREATURE!!!"
    (Actually he means: Begone so I may loot any more treasure upon you)
    Undead: "Yeah right" (grumbles)
    After this tomb is purged of evil
    Paladin: "Wow a nice sword, let's take it."
    (Actually he means: well, he means exactly that)
    Squire: "Ah but sir won't this be looting"
    Paladin: "Of course not, this will be used in further execution of evil."
    (Actually he means: I might sell it to Ribald heh heh)
     
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    LOL
    oh, how many times have I had characters do that kind of thing.
    Evil guy " let's free the children!"
    henchman " what a waste of time, you sickening do gooder."
    Evil guy " We're presenting a good front, that we can continue our evil deeds unmolested"
    (I really want to level up, and need the XP)
     
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