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Why do people talk about killing Hitler?

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by SlickRCBD, Jan 19, 2025.

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    I've heard the philosophical question about "If you could go back in time and kill Hitler, would you do it to prevent the Holocaust/WWII/many crimes?"
    Why is it always requiring that you murder him?
    If you can go back in time to kill him, why not go a little bit farther and convince Klara not to sleep with her cousin Alois and thus prevent the need to marry him? Especially when he's already married.
    Or just convince Klara to find a job somewhere else other than working for Alois? Maybe help her find a job elsewhere where she might not be convinced to sleep with Alois?
    Thus instead of killing Adolph Hitler, you peacefully ensure he's never born since his parents never sleep with each other.

    Yet I always hear about going back in time to KILL Hitler. If you have time travel, you don't need to actually murder somebody if you can ensure their parents never hook up.
     
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    Pretty loaded question. Or could Hitler have been somebody else had somebody somehow intervened so that his mother wasn't in some way harmed by a Jewish man? I've heard more than one theory in that respect.

    At the same time, I do wonder if it's a futile question too, since very often the social forces at work are much larger than the influence of an individual man. Anti-semitism was rising on account of the 'stab in the back' theory, even aside from Hitler's and Goebbels' helping hands. German resentment was rising because they were hit especially hard by the Depression even as Britain and France would not let up on reparations.

    The embers were there. Could somebody else besides Hitler and Goebbels have fanned those embers into the full-fledged fires? Hard to say. If it wasn't them, somebody else absolutely would have tried their darnedest though.

    Sometimes you can entertain flip scenarios too. As awful as it sounds, was it actually better that Hitler be the Fuehrer in the long run? Some WW2 experts actually ask that question, and theorize that Germany could actually have won the war if it was led by a Fuehrer who recognized his limits and let his competent general staff manage the war itself. There's also the odd theory that British and American intelligence entertained the possibility of assassinating Hitler but ruled against it because the war itself was easier if he remained at the helm.

    You could extend these kinds of questions to just about any other historical scenario.

    I'm completely serious when I say I know some Indigenous persons ask similar questions with respect to Christopher Columbus, along with the desire that Europeans never cross the ocean. But Europeans, Spain and England and Holland and the Italian city states alike were all looking for a way to China that did not involve tolls to the Ottoman Empire and whoever else could demand payment for the Silk Road. If it wasn't Columbus, it would have been someone else.
     
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