The Power of Clerics.

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Hmm, why doesnt anyone post a combo of harm/slay living/finger of death with various buffing spells such as righteous magic, holy power etc.?

Perhaps i should try heal with my uber buffed cleric on some highly annoying vampire.

EDIT: Do healing spells harm undead?

[ February 05, 2006, 11:01: Message edited by: Mercury Star ]

 

^No, healing spells actually heal Undead.

Try HARM instead.

 

I do believe you get xp for the death of the ones you take control of (I need to test that out again though, just can't remember for sure). Been a long time since I played an evil cleric though. Once everything else is dead, just select all but one and have them attack it and repeat till one is left. Bonk it a couple times with your mace of disruption and presto, everything dead,

 

I think controlled undead work the same way as summoned creatures work. In other words, you get XPs for the things the controlled undead kill, just like you get XPs from things your summoned creatures kill. However, you don't get XPs for the controlled undead that die will trying to kill something else, just like you don't get XPs form your summoned creature that is destroyed. However, if you use the process Krypto suggests, i.e., having them attack each other until one is left, and then kill the last one, you do get all the XPs.

 

The biggest trouble with Druids in BG2 is that the animal forms quickly become useless -- a Druid with semi decent equipment is far superior to the wolf or bear forms available. Even the Avenger's extra shapeshifting choices kind of suck, and the Shapeshifter's werewolf isn't stunningly better. In PnP the shapeshifting rocks when it comes to recon, travel or escape, but this doesn't translate into the BG series.

However, the Druid can use 1 more 2-handed weapon than the cleric can (the spear) and his ability to use daggers, darts and scimitars makes him a little more versatile. He makes a fine healer, and at lower levels the Goodberry spell is helpful, particularly if you tend to get banged up quite a bit. At middle levels, the Druid's summoning abilities are most useful, and that's what I use my Druid for -- summoning and healing. If he is forced into combat, having him use Belm is helpful, and if you can keep him at a distance, having him get the extra attack that darts have over slings is also good, as his THAC0 is equal to that of a cleric, and both tricks increase his damage potential.

 

At higher levels when druids get lev7 spells they surpass the clerics , lev7 clerical spells are pathetic.

 

^You must be kidding. Level 7 Cleric Spell Greater Restoration is by no means most useful and powerful cleric spell in entire game. I mean, with ToB it completely and instantly heals all party, a total winner!

 

Well maybe I exaggerated but I always end up using rods of reusrection , potions , the regen spell etc. instead of greater restoration ,there are not that many cases when I had to heal my entire party

 

What's the best way to go about playing a Ranger/Cleric? Multi-Class from the start, or Dual Class?

 

Multi-class from start. That way you get access to all Druid and Cleric spells at each level.

 

Not only that, you will also get BOTH fighter and cleric [snip]! Definitely multi is way alot better!

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[ March 02, 2006, 02:31: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

 

I dual to cleric right at the start of SOA (lvl7 iirc). You still get all spells from both classes and can achieve a higher level in the long run as well as level up quicker.

 

I think that the advantage of a cleric over a druid is the "undead stuff". A cleric gets the very useful Animate Dead spell (level 3) and also the anti-undead spells: False Dawn (level 6) and Sunray (level 7). His/her Turn Undead ability is also extreamly useful. There is plenty undead in the game.

The Druid on the other hand gets Insect Plague and Ironskins. The shapechange ability of the druid in BG2 generally sucks, however there are a few mods that address this inadequacy (the Dark Friend kit comes to mind).

 

just take the Ranger/cleric multiclass, i have soloed one and i am currently playing one in a party, great fun both times