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what would you say should i buy the 3rd edition???

 

this isn't really the right forum for this but anyway.

3rd edition is, in my opinion, really cool, I think you should get it and it isn't as confusing as 2nd edition. The new way of stat boni and no cap for stats are great, a dragon has truly become a dragon.

[This message has been edited by Lokken (edited September 28, 2001).]

 

well i find 3DnD to be an excellent set of rules to play under. I played 2nd, and it was a nightmare (too much stuff to remember).

damn i wish they had put more 3e stuff in bg2...

 

When you start, I always advice playing 3rd edition, the rulez are more logic and clearer. Some things that wheren't easy to understand changed in a positive way.

 

Not to mention the great handbooks! Very nice artwork!

 

3E is best version of D&D I ever seen. I would highly suggest that you pick up a copy. The system has fixed a lot of issue over 2E and has great balance and improved gameplay. I is more logical rules wise and add more freedom than eariler editions.

In short Yes buy the 3E PHB and learn for yourself.

 

I have to say...3ed has won me over!

I've been playing it in the #sorcerers_nwn chatroom for the past few weeks, and I really enjoy it! It's much easier than the older editions that I grew up playing. The only criticism I have is the generic nature of the classes now. And my stubborn crotchetiness about paladins being anything other than human...and using missile weapons! The horror!

I like the game engine a lot better now. I think the AC and other rolling stuff is much easier to understand, and the ability scores and feats are really cool. Again, I think the downfall are the lack of class restrictions though.

In the old game, there were pluses and minuses to playing other races and certain classes. And the classes were somewhat offset by the types of weapons each could use. I thought this helped the game in overall balance.

That's the one thing I've noticed in playing...all the classes are fairly powerful from the beginning.

 

I have to agree with Sir Bel about paladins. Using bows? What the heck? It's also rather difficult to imagine any of the other races with the proper temperament of a paladin, though I admit exceptions exist; I just think non-human paladins would be rather rare.

 

I also enjoyed the first 2 evenings playing 3rd edition. I really think it's easier to understand and some things change in a really positive way. Some things can still be changed though, a game is never perfect

 

which races can become paladins in 3E?

 

Any of them. There is no racial restriction for Paladins in 3E.

 

In my gaming group we have come up with a solution for the paladin problem Sir Belisarius posted.

Since the paladin is so different from the other classes anyway, we simply removed it and made it a prestige class only available to humans and aasimar.
The other races can then have holy warriors that suit their believes better, we "simply" make a new prestige class for a holy crusader of the deity/race in question. This also opens up for evil deities to have their own crusaders, giving a solution to the much-discussed "anti-paladin problem" as well!


PS. Don't be mislead by the "simply" part, we are four regular DMs in my PnP group and we discuss these classes at length before introducing anything to the players...

 

This is a good idea. One my DMs did the same thing, made the Paladin a Prestige class that is. His belief was how many 1st level Paladin should there by. I mean is a God going to show favor to someone who gets their butt kicked by a goblin.

 

Well, for RP purpouses, making the paladin class a prestige class is a good thing. I've never really felt a plaladin is really a first level class, though of course there are lowly squires in every Paladin order. However, just comparing it to other prestige classes, it should be condensed to make it worthwhile. What I mean to say is the Paladin, IMO, isn't one of the more exciting classes, and having to take it on top of other classes and still have the Paladin's level advancement isn't all that apealing to me. Perhaps make it fewer levels to take; it would make it pack more of a punch.

And as far as generic classes, how many times have we seen human paladins. I think a much less generic call would be capstone's favorite: a Dwarf wizard. 3rd edition's lack of class restrictions makes for much more interesting class possibilities IMO. Instead of making them generic, their lack of restrictions breathes new life into some old and boring classes. An evil halfing ranger? Yes please. The only one I'm not that big on is the Paladin, but then we've all seen ways to solve this already.

[This message has been edited by Crawl (edited October 24, 2001).]

 

Well, I don't have a problem with other races having 'holy warriors', though the paladin isn't necessarily the best representation of what they would be like. Of course, paladins don't suit most gods as written. I'm also not a big fan of 'major benefits' that are of limited utility, like the paladin's warhorse. Its cool, but its generally useless.

I'm thinking of replacing the paladins in my sagas with something like the OA sohei. A little better suited to the setting.

Btw, does anyone know what they look like in 3e now that a new OA is out? I can pretty easily make one from the 1e version. Certainly not going to spend $30 for the new version just to find out.

Aloha
Vormaerin

 

Crawl, what was that about my favorite being a dwarven wizard?

/me looks at Crawl in puzzlement