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Aerie can use Darts?

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Blog, Mar 8, 2003.

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    Possible bug?:
    Even though Aerie is a cleric/mage, for some reason she can still equip and attack with regular darts. Why?

    She is not allowed to put proficiency points into darts (correct according to cleric weapon restrictions). Nor can she equip magical darts (ie: +1).

    But how come Aerie can use normal darts?
     
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    That's a good question! :eek:

    Of course, Shadows of Amn never really followed the AD&D rules to the letter. Jaheira, for instance, can wield a scimitar - but a druid/priest can only wield natural crushing weapons - aka clubs and quarter staffs.
     
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    Druids can wield scimitars. I believe that is in compliance with AD&D, as well as 3E rules. Which is odd, considering that the scimitar isn't much of a "natural" weapon (although it does resemble a claw).
     
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    Druids can wield scimitars because the blade is shaped like a waning moon. Given the Druidic connection with the moon, the reason they can wield it is clear. The Arms and Equipment guide I have for 2nd edition also states that druids can wield the Khopesh, an old and clumsy sword used in early Egypt, for a similar reason -- the blade's symbolic connection with the moon.

    Getting back to Aerie, though, she shouldn't be able to use any darts -- yet another glitch!
     
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    My problem with it is that Druids respect nature, and thus try to avoid interacting with much worked iron. Now, the scimitar is obviously a piece of worked iron. Made me wonder, but the moon thing makes sense.

    Shouldn't Druids then be able to wield axes? I mean, the axe blade resembles a half-moon, right?

    Now about studded leather. That's essentially a whole bunch of iron rivets held together by leather. Wonder why Druids get to wear that if they can't wear chain mail.
     
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    Isn't it to do with the fact that axes are usually used to cut down trees? Given the Druid and Ranger's respect for nature, it's no wonder. As for the other, you got me.
     
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    I've always thought that the moon logic was a little weak, but that's the line I was given. I get the armor thing, though -- as long as the armor is primarily leather, it's OK.
     
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    The axe is a fairly primal weapon; basically, a sharp thing attached to a long thing. Given Druids' connection to the natural and primal, it would sense.
     
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    [​IMG] Um, the topic is about Aerie and normal darts.
     
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    I'm going to see if it applies only to Aerie, or if it extends to PC created cleric/mage or cleric/fighter/mage. I'll post the results here later.
     
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    It is also intresting that she is an elven cleric/mage, science normal eleves can´t muticlass any cleric. But ofcourse, Anomen don´t have 17 WIS, so...
     
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    Ok, here's what I found:
    Half-elf Cleric/Mage, Cleric/Figher/Mage and Cleric/Ranger act similarly to Aerie: they can ALL use normal darts but not magical ones. And they put proficiency points in darts either.

    Also tried a Barbarian Cleric/Thief (that's a first for me :) ) Same thing: can use normal darts but not magical darts. HOWEVER, they CAN specialize in darts (one proficiency point).

    I also planned to test a human cleric dualled to fighter. But as it turned out, the human cleric has the same problem already! A regular cleric can use normal darts, but not magical ones, and cannot be proficient in darts.

    So looks like the glitch is not limited to Aerie.
     
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