Anomen's a liar!

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I'm in the copper coronet doing the free hendek quest and yoshimo asks anomen about adventuring. He says he killed a wyvern with a spear! I'm going to bed.

 

Why is that impossible?

 

it isn't, is just another damn spammer trying to get their posts up.

 

Anomen can't use spears now, since he is a cleric--but remember that he dualled from a fighter. He could very well have been proficient in spears before taking up the cloth. (-:

 

look before you leap, spud.

 

A dual classed fighter/cleric cannot use a spear because it is not a blunt weapon! AD&D rules! I was very tired last night and should have elaborated more.

 

Did he kill the beast before of after he dualclassed?

 

You didn't even try to read my post, sorvo.

Let me repeat myself. Anomen is a fighter dualled to cleric. Before he dualled to cleric, he very well MIGHT have been proficient in spears. He's not allowed to use them anymore, but that doesn't mean he wasn't in his past.

 

You might be right Tjek.I have to get the dialouge again because I think he was a cleric at that point.

 

Don't believe a word anomen says, even if it isn't entirely impossible. He's a bit of a sneak, that man. Unfortunately, he's just about the best NPC cleric in the realms. Trust me on this one.

 

ABOUT THE BEST NPC CLERIC IN THE REALMS???
WHO DARES...

I think you know whom I have in mind now, but isn't any cleric better than Anomen - with his WIS-score of 12?!


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His score may be upgraded to 16 when he passes his "test" - but that is again worse than Viconia's score!

> END SPOILER

 

Yeah, but you'll be glad to have Anomen when some big bastard with a THACO of about -23 twats your only cleric one; Im thinking Anomen has the better chance of surviving as he has LOADS of hp and only gets a few less spells than Vicky. He can use better weapons/armour than Vicky without the aid of strength enhancing stuff and thus is better in good-aligned, fighter based parties featuring the likes of Keldorn, Minsc and Mazzy. DOn't get me wrong; Vicky's great too, but Im just saying that you definately shouldnt write (sir) Anomen off.

[This message has been edited by Will (edited September 11, 2001).]

 

Anomen is a spoiled brat and his hateful dialogue to MY party members have caused me such consternation that depending on the protagonist, I've dismissed him, silently cheered him on, cut him down in the street. One thing about Anomen, he brings out our emotions, eh?

I like playing a cleric as a protagonist so my basis of comparison of cleric abilities is somewhat shaded by that.

By the way, even if Anomen did have proficiency with spears when he was a fighter, those proficiencies wouldn't be erased when he changed class. Anomen is a liar. If the lily livered, pansy ever did see a wyvern, he probably ran like a girly man... and the wyvern impaled itself on a tree limb chasing the bastard's backside.

[This message has been edited by Subra (edited September 12, 2001).]

 

Stop beeing so narrowminded. It is possible to wield a spear as a fighter even though one is not proficient in it. -1 to Thach0 is all.

Anyway I agree with Will. Anomen is a better character than Viccy. He is a stronger AND more Solid AND More attacks per round Tank than viccy (I remember Lokken calling Viccy a tank). He miss out on 2x1st 2x2nd 1x3rd 1x4th That is nothing critical at all.

Ok ok Viccy is beautifull

 

Ho, my friend, let's not get into hasty conclusions. Anomen wouldn't last a minute against a Shadow Lich now, would he? Yes, Vicky's magic resist + the other bonuses makes the magic attacks go to waste... Viconia's also got better defense... and she improves with power-ups. Also, her romance is better than Anomen's. Now, I'm not telling Anomen's not that good than Viconia. (Since I'd mostly prefer him because Viconia shines pretty much later... I am ashamed of my impatience...)

And on the topic on spear wielding... probably a lucky strike. Once had a battle against Balor. Guess what? Anomen got only two strikes out of the lots my fighters threw at the demon... and he got to kill it with a lucky 10 damage. Could've happened to the wyvern. Also, WHAT human couldn't use a spear?(No one) Example. Imagine yourself the normal cleric, the healer who believes not in wielding weapons that kill, all alone because a rampaging Treant slaughtered your comrades. Looking at it, you see that it's gone so weak, you could kill it with a blow. The nearest weapon, is a magically enhanced spear that could hit the Treant and a non-magical mace. You know that if it survives, it would destroy anything and everyone. What to do? Choose the lesser of the two evils, I suppose... (BTW, Imagine you're sided with a god that wants subjects to serve him...)
It's better if everyone had the ability to bring any weapons... But there'd be a rule. For example, penalty of 4 to THACO for wielding weapons against your class and another +2 for weapons against your faith..or ethos. That would've been nice... but it's just my opinion.




[This message has been edited by zantetsuken (edited September 12, 2001).]

 

This stuff always comes up in NPC Vs. NPC

Cant Anomen be Improved with Magical items too? But I agree on the Magic res. And as always the NPC Vs. NPC fades out into a maze.

 

This would fall under the, "Things I wish I'd said at the time" file (Hmmm, maybe a new topic . . . ?), but when Anomen told me that, I wanted to say, "Your mother must be so proud . . . to find you hanging out in a slave-brothel in the slums." Or, maybe, "That's nice. Mazzy, here, just killed a dragon with a soda and some 'Pop-Rocks' -- and, she'll nibble your knee-caps, if you rub her right." Or, finally, "Greeeat, Anomen! Does your husband always let you kill the easy stuff?"

Anomen can get so cheeky . . . like "a red-cheeked maiden, my friend!"

 

Well... I guess I slipped on that one, Nobleman . But to rephrase that, she improves better - probably because she starts from worst to great. Anomen starts pretty much from acceptable. Then he improves to great too. That's why I'd check on him most of the time- I need the best for my party especially in the earlier chapters. Then, if I've had my share of fighters with pitiful abilities against magic, I let Vic in. Anyways, I always have my clerics running around to help the wounded, so Anomen barely has a chance to do the fighting. By then, I'd need a cleric w/ good armor class and magic resist so he/she could survive the battle to raise the dead or go around the battle healing while being bombarded with spells. Vic's spellproof enough to be left alive... In my games, Anomen barely makes it... But that's being unfair. Well, it's my opinion anyways.

Vic or Anomen? Hmmmm... I'd choose Anomen if I were playing female and Vic if I'm playing a male NPC. That pretty much solves the dispute.

 

oh bloody hell this is such a shockin thread!!! this is a CLERIC who apparently killed a DRAGON with a SPEAR!! god, ppl have the right to tell stories, ya know...