Ashdown Caught On Tape: Bosnia's Dictator Seen Inspecting Kla Weapons

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SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC.ORG, Thursday, September 29, 2005

Ashdown Caught On Tape: Bosnia's Dictator Seen Inspecting Kla Weapons And
Promising Assistance To Terrorists

Written by: Andy Wilcoxson

Slobodan Milosevic continued to destroy Paddy Ashdown's credibility during
his trial at the Hague Tribunal on Thursday where he re-examined Gen.
Bozidar Delic.

Milosevic presented an explosive videotape of Ashdown to the tribunal. The
videotape opens with a uniformed KLA terrorist presenting his rifle to
Ashdown for inspection. After inspecting the firearm, Ashdown is taken to
view an arms cache where he can be seen inspecting several more weapons. The
audio on the tape is rather poor, but Ashdown can be heard promising to
inform Prime Minister Blair of the situation and saying that he will "do his
best" to procure assistance.

Interestingly, when Ashdown testified on March 15, 2002, he spoke about a
visit he made to the village of Studencani where he says he inspected a
number of weapons. Ashdown claimed that "villagers" had procured the weapons
so that they could stave off reprisals by having something to give to the
Serbian Police in the event that they came around asking for the surrender
of weapons.

The fact that Ashdown's so-called "villagers" were, in fact, members of the
KLA proves that he was lying during that part of his testimony. Obviously,
the KLA wasn't procuring weapons because they wanted to give them away as
some sort of present to the Serbian police. The KLA wanted to procure
weapons in order to kill the Serbian Police.

Milosevic proceeded to question Gen. Delic about Ashdown's latest
recollection of where he was at when he said he saw Serbian troops shelling
several Kosovo villages. When Ashdown testified on March 14, 2002 he said
that he was in Albania looking into Kosovo. Now Ashdown says that he was in
Kosovo itself.

Gen. Delic said that Ashdown cold not have been in Kosovo at the location he
now gives. If Ashdown had been there, especially for the four hours he
claims, then he would have been arrested. Delic explained that the border
between Albania and Kosovo was sealed to prevent arms trafficking and that
the frequent VJ patrols which were in that area at the time Ashdown gives
would have arrested him.

Furthermore, Delic testifies that Ashdown couldn't have seen all of the
places he claims to have seen, even from the new location he's now giving.
To prove his point Delic offered to accompany ICTY investigators to the spot
and show them.

During the re-examination Milosevic asked Delic several questions about the
30th Personnel Center of the VJ. Delic explained that this personnel center
paid salaries, pensions, and welfare benefits to former JNA soldiers who
were deployed in Republika Srpska as members of the VRS. Delic said that the
personnel center was only intended to assist soldiers and their families. He
said it did not issue orders.

Delic also answered several questions about the SCG Bureau for Cooperation
with the ICTY. He spelled out the Bureau's objectives, which were: to
provide legal assistance to those dealing with the tribunal and to provide
facts and documents relevant to ICTY investigations.

During the cross-examination, Mr. Nice read out a Bureau document which he
claimed said that the Bureau opposed "voluntary" cooperation with the ICTY.
It turns out that Mr. Nice misspoke (or lied); the document really said that
the Bureau opposed "arbitrary", or forced, cooperation with the ICTY.

Following the final conclusion of Gen. Delic's testimony, Bogoljub Janicevic
resumed his examination-in-chief. Janicevic is the former chief of the
Urosevac SUP.

Janicevic presented several pages of documents showing that Serbian police
officers were arrested and prosecuted whenever they committed crimes. These
documents prove that the Serbian Government did not turn a blind eye to
police misconduct in Kosovo. This is not the first time such documents have
been exhibited, Col. Paponjak and Gen. Stevanovic presented similar
documents when they testified.

The witness also presented the court with detailed statistics on crimes
committed in the area of the Urosevac SUP's responsibility. These documents
showed that the KLA was very active and required an urgent police response.

From 1998 until mid-1999, in the Urosevac area alone, the KLA purpetrated
118 terrorist attacks killing 125 people (75 civilians, 18 policemen, and 32
VJ soldiers; of the civilians killed 18 were Albanans, and 57 were
non-Albanians). The KLA kidnapped 137 people: they released 50, 5 were found
dead, and the fate of the rest is unknown.

These statistics show that the KLA terrorized Albanians and non-Albanians
alike. The Serbian Government would have been remiss in its duties had it
not sought to eliminate the KLA.

Janicevic will continue his testimony on Friday.

 

Taluntain, read the name of the writter: Andy Wilcoxson. That is not even a Slavic name. That makes the article pretty neutral and unbiased to begin with.
It is hosted in a pro-Milosevic site, indeed, but the author is pretty much on neutral field. I dont know why it can not be discussed.
As for the great Serbia, that is BS. What people call Great Serbia, is nothing more than historical Serbian lands. Dont forget Kosovo is a holy Orthodox Serbian land.
PS: Where are the bodies of the thousands of victims claimed on Serbian hands?
CCCC!

 

Taluntain, where are you from, if you dont mind me asking? Slovenia? Because you seem to be acquaintanced with these matters...
Anyway, I agree we can not change borders like that, but fact is some lands were grossly stolen from the Serbs, and some will sooner or later be given back, even if through War. And when the time comes, Russia will not be so pathetically weak to allow the US to bomb our brothers like that.
Also, dont forget both Slovenia and Croatia had their leaders rule their time, but when it was time of a Serbian ruler, they decided to pull out from the Jugoslavia.
You are also forgetting when Croatia declared independence, they started to massacrate their Serbian minority.
Srebrenica is not non-existant, but it is greatly exaggerated, which is why "Western peace forces" are having a bad time finding out all the bodies claimed for murder.
Also, Serbians were as massacrated as everyone else, but they were chosen to be demonized by the West. For many reasons, like being eternal allies of Russia; being Orthodox Christians; being a proud people not willing to give up their Culture for the NWO; the fact Croatia has always been an ally to the West. In the end, it all comes down to the fact the West wanted to meddle in the Balkans, and to implement their ways into them. They do not accept people opposed to the NWO.
germany, among others, were for a long time inducing turmoil in the region, and we all know how it ended, which is a pity.
Lastly, we all know the albanian lobby in the US. They sure contributed a lot to the whole mess. They and warmongers such as Madelaine Albright - which was saved from the nazis by a Serbian family, but I doubt she knows gratitude.

 

I dont like to disregard the testimony of people who went through the experiences in discussion, even more if it is a painful one, but I disagree with some of your claims, and although I did not live in Jugoslavia during the Wars, I know people who did. Anyway:

So, by your logic, operantly there is not such thing as true injustice, land grabs, conquest, imperialism, etc, it has all just been an “excuse”. You can also believe that the world is flat or whatever, that doesn't change the realities of the world. In this case the realities are that R.Srpska, Kosovo, Vojvodina, CrnaGora and at least some part of Krajina is Serbian land (just as Hercegovina is Croatian land). The only reason that all of these lands aren't directly a part of Serbia is because some communist bastard decided that it suits him better to draw the boarders they way they were drawn. There is absolutely nothing even remotely like the concept of “lebensraum” here, before the war all of these lands already had Serbian majorities and democratically voted for independence. Why is it that Croatia or Slovenia has the right to vote to leave Jugoslavija and become independent, yet at the same time Krajina cannot do so.

First of all if you are referring to the way in which Slovenia left Jugoslavija it is anecdotal to call that a “war”. Second, if you think Slovenia was feeding half of Jugo, you are simply beyond delusional. Slovenia has a fine economy, but it's a tiny country with a tiny population and little if any natural resources. If you look at the Slovene economy today it is mostly based on services (as are most modern economies), there is simply nothing that Slovenia has that would feed or provide for the rest of Jugoslavija.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/si.html#Econ
Labor force - by occupation:
agriculture 6%, industry 40%, services 55% (2002)

Similarly, Slovenia also benefited economically from all kinds of resources that were needed to run industry. In any case it absolutely ridiculous to claim that Slovenian economic success has anything to do with the reasons you provided. Slovenia is a small country with a homogeneous population, which did not suffer any real conflicts or ethnic strides that destroyed the rest of Jugo. Stability is one of the first prerequisites for a healthy economy, nothing more nothing else.

As for all the money going to Belgrade, it was the capital and in all countries all the money goes to the central government. Belgrade was the biggest city of the biggest republic, why shouldn't it have been the capital of Jugoslavija?

I'll make this as clear cut for you as it can get,
1991 croation population: 14.5% Serbs
2001 croation population: 4.54% Serbs
enought said.

First of all it is rather pointless to bring up the Holocaust in a situation that is clearly of different proportions. Second of all, what happened at Srebrenica was quite sad, but it is one of many places, there are many more where Serbs were killed by Muslims, where Muslims were killed by Croats, where Serbs were killed by Croats, etc. etc. The only true reason that we are speaking of Srebrenica now and not of any other place because it is an excuse to try to pin the while war and all the crimes assositated with it on Serbs alone.

No, the West clearly could NOT have meddled in Eastern Europe in general until the fall of the SU whether they wanted it or not. That's a clear fact that isn't debatable. It is the exactly in the same way not debatable that it is in the interest of the US and the West in general to have the Balkans dominated by pro-Western countries and nation. That is the only reason that West is anti-Serbia, they only do what is in their best interest, that should be obvious to anyone. The bottom line here is that all Serbian lands should and will be united in a single country (as all Slovene lands are united in a single country). There is nothing moronic, childish or anything of the sort here.

Well you certainly have a high opinion of yourself. This has nothing to do with attitudes or anything else you claim, only the fact that Slovenia wasn't destroyed by war and ethnic conflict because it's a tiny and homogeneous country.

 

So having a name that isn't Slavic is proof that one is unbiased and neutral when it comes to Milosevic?

Interesting.

 

I'll stay out of the balkan issue since I have not read anything about it nor do I much care, it's a horrible mess which I currently have no interest of finding out about but I just wanted to say a bit about land demands in general. I assume that when you are demanding these areas to Serbia you are just as willing to let go of karealia as it by all accounts has been a finnish terretory? Not to mention the amount of historical Lithaunic terretory that Russia still has. As Tal said the time to make terretorial demands is over, it does not work that way. Two millenias of war and two world wars have taught that to most of Europe , too bad some have still failed to learn the lesson.

 

Taluntain,

I will answer you in a few days. For now, let me just share this article. It is not from Milosevic.org by the way.

Links: http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050203&articleId=406
http://www.counterpunch.org/johnstone10122005.html

[ October 16, 2005, 03:55: Message edited by: Svyatoslav ]

 

I tried to edit, but I could not. Just the first part of my post was "editable".
Anyway, here it is the link, so you can edit yourself my post: http://www.counterpunch.org/johnstone10122005.html
Just please do not edit the interview, which is not that big anyway.

 

Seems rather a departure of form for you to credit a Communist/Stalinist source Svy.

Counterpunch:

 

We can not reshape borders as they were 1000 years before. However, there is absolutely no justification that a land like Krajina be taken away from the Serbians like that. It is curious to note you mention Serbians wanted to create a Great Serbia, and you also say nowadays it is no longer admissible to make territorial claims. However, Krajina was stolen away from the Serbians not 500 years ago, but in the last War in the Balkans, wherein people were fighting against "Serbian expansion". What is the logic? I guess it is like israel. In each deffensive War they partake, they actually expand their territory, which is, at least, curious to note.

Well, that is because Croats were clearly on the intent of ethnically cleansing the Serbians - 200 thousand souls from Krajina dont let me lie.
Lets not mention the albanians and bosnians muslims...
Anyway, you fail to address my main point. You wanted to leave, that is ok, but when Krajina - which was composed mostly by Serbians - wanted to succeed and join Serbia, Croats attacked them and started to mass murder people.

I know, which is still not true. Slovenia is fairly small, and was hardly the economical powerhouse of Jugoslavia.

Not that is becoming an ego battle. I dont mean to discuss who is superior, or more developed, either you or the Serbians. However, to claim Slovenia was the major economical power behind Jugoslavia is simply not true.

You mean Croats attacking Krajina?

Yes, it is all a big Serbian conspiracy. you forget Tito was half Croat and half Slovene, and he drawn the borders of Jugoslavia at his own volition, with no respects for ethnic lines, which ended up pretty bad to the Serbians. He actually encouraged albanians to move out to Kosovo & Metohija. I fail to see how Jugoslavia was a Serbian dictatorship, seeing how the main man behind it prejudiced the Serbians so much.

Wait, the ethnical cleansing of the Serbians is a small detail? Maybe only Srebrenica is considered genocide in your agenda.

You should read the links I provided really. By the way "only real solution for Kosovo is independence…" in the words of Janez Drnovsek himself! It always works like that, people provoke all they want, and when the other part reacts whinning ensues. Now you all other Balkan people have UN behind your backs, but this situation will not keep forever.
The blame is always on the shoulders of the Serbians, but with quotes like that, I wonder who are the ones ensuing conflict and bad blood. Sheer provocation!

Well, is it a lie that Slovenia is a wanna-be Western Country? Is it a lie that since WWII Serbians have been ethnically cleansed by Ustashas, bosnian muslims, albanians - all of whom had SS units by the way?
Is it a lie that Tito encouraged albanians to Kosovo& Metohija? Now Kosovo & Metohija has become albanian land? By which right?

To each his own I guess. However, that does not change the fact some injusticies have to be corrected. If you dont want to fight for your rights, there are some who want to.

If you tried to expell or ethnically cleanse them, as it was tried in both Krajina and Kosovo & Metohija, you bet.

Yes, I will not take away credit from you. However, the reasons I have mentioned certainly favoured you.
Anyway, the fact I did not live through the Wars is not a real argument. It is very easy to deny other people's view on the subject, on the basis that they "were not there".
Anyway, I know people who did, and their facts and general view of the conflicts is opposite to yours. Why should I take your opinion over them?
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Morgoroth,

If you want to talk about "Lithuanian" territories, we might do so in a different thread. As for Karelia, it has nothing to do with Kosovo & Metohija and Krajina really. We can talk about that in a different thread as well.
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Carcaroth,

Oh really? I was not aware. I have never visited this site before, and I only did because Talutain asked that I provided links instead of pasting the articles.
However, I would have to check on Diana Johnston - the woman who wrote the article - to know if she is a commie or something. Her article does not seem to contain a single pro commie crap though. On the contrary, leftists are the first to stand up for the albanians and muslims against "Serbian devils" in the West. I would be surprised really.

 

Sorry for the delay, but it could not be helped. I just wanted to add I dont hold anything against any Catholic Balkanic Slavs, like Slovenes and Croatians. Yes, I know you probably dont care either way, but I felt like making it clear anyway.