Baldurdash & EoU Issues?

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Anyone have any problems with the ease of use and baldurdash fixpack working together?

Been wanting to run bg2 with the ease of use and the bugfixes.

[ August 28, 2006, 21:28: Message edited by: Taluntain ]

 

You should use the G3 Fixpack instead of Baldurdash--it is WeiDU so can be uninstalled and easily updated, patches fixes in a non-destructive way, and includes all Baldurdash fixes and a load more. http://www.gibberlings3.net/bg2fixpack/

Ease of Use is also now incorporated into the BG2 Tweak Pack, from G3. http://www.gibberlings3.net/bg2tweaks/

 

Just get the BG2 Tweak pack. It contains fixes and tweaks from both EoU and Baldurdash, as well as several others.

Beaten, dammit.

 

thanks for the quick replys trying them out now.

 

Baldurdash fixpack has no problem working with Ease of use. You need to install Baldurdash before all of your other mods. Use the non-weidu version of Baldurdash. Here is the correct installation order before installing any mods:

BG2 + TOB + TOB official patch + Baldurdash TOB fixpack V112

You can install Ease of Use after Baldurdash without any problem.

[ August 28, 2006, 12:37: Message edited by: Sikret ]

 

No problems between EoU and Baldurdash in my games.

If space is limited, let me tell you Baldurdash is 345 Kilobytes and EoU is 448 Kilobytes while BG2 Fixpack is 2.1 Megabytes.

 

Unless you want the Game Text Update from BD as well, which will run you another 2-3 MBs and a spare dialog.tlk (8 MBs).

 

Question for you, Andyr: we've been told a quizillion times that Baldurdash should be installed immediately following the ToB official patch. Is that only because it's non-Weidu? Since the Fixpack does everything Baldurdash does and then some, but IS Weidu, I'm assuming we can skip Baldurdash altogether and install the Fixpack at the tail end of any mods?

I know this is a dumb question, but I like to be absolutely sure about this stuff. Me not bright.

 

I think it's a very good question.

It should be installed in the same order (after official patch, prior to mods) as Baldurdash. The reason is that many mods will 'clone' a spell or item for their own use. If Fixpack is installed after such mods, the original bugs will be fixed but not the bugs that have propagated out from the other mods.

For example, Divine Remix builds all of its innate spells on the fly from the original mage/cleric spells. If the Fixpack is installed prior to DR, then DR clones fixed spells and the new innates are also bug-free. If DR is installed prior to Fixpack, than any bugs in the original spells are transferred to the new DR innates. Fixpack would only fix the original spells.

 

Now I's confused. It was always my understanding that mods impose their changes on any mod installed before them. That's why I install

NPC mods
Quest mods
New Item mods
Tweak mods

in that order. Are you saying I should be doing the reverse???

 

No, you've got it right. Tweak mods work by searching through, say, all items in the game (including those from mods) and then modifying them if certain conditions are true. (For example, Remove Helmet Animations from BG2 Tweaks searches through all item files and then only modifies helmets.) It's beneficial for it to be last in the process since it can then modify the original files plus anything added by mods.

OTOH, the Fixpack is built to modify only the original BG2 files. It doesn't run any searches through files, since the things it is fixing are known and generally only applicable to one or two files. It could, in theory, be altered to install like a tweak pack but install time would increase by a substantial margin. It also adds non-trivial maintenance costs for the Fixpack--time we'd rather spend working on new fixes.

 

Okay...NOW I'm on the trolley. I was saying "fixpack" but thinking "tweakpack".

So...Fixpack first; tweakpack last. Got it.

Thanks, Cam.

 

No worries, glad to help.