Bomb in London

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4659093.stm

 

Talking to some people from London in the chatroom - it's sounding pretty bad ... CJ says a new report of an explosion comes in every ten minutes or so...

And when is someone official going to say the word 'bomb'? Surely these couldn't be anything but?

Edit: Ah wait, now they have...

 

I wonder if this has anything to do with the Olympics or G8 - anarchists from all over the world were causing trouble in Scotland, but this explosion is a mystery.

The false bomb warnings seems like an IRA tactic, but I don't think its them.

 

I would say it's more than unlikely to be the IRA.

This will have a connection with the G8 summit, certainly in terms of timing. Perhaps also lack of vigilance since the greatest security measures are around Gleneagles rather than down in London this week.

Seems to be a series of smaller explosions, but the death toll will mount up when the debris is cleared

 

Somthing like 3 confirmed explosions and a possible 6 others elsewhere, but these are unconfirmed report, I heard there was an explosion at Heathrow...

Trains, buses, power, mobile phones, the whole city is at a standstill, the M25 has handwritten signs saying "dont bother coming into london", I still can't believe it...

 

Very likely, but too obvious don't you think?

 

My bet is on anti-globalization crazies of some sort.

 

Seven confirmed explosions, timed perfectly for the rush-hour.

Last I heard, there were only two confirmed deaths. That's still two too many, but it could be far worse.

 

There is more than that surely, did you see the picture of the bus? at that time of the day buses are always full in London, even more so on the tube!

 

Everything I've read says it WILL get far worse, Alavin.

Bush is such a fool. The problem of terrorism is a huge and complicated web, fraught with misunderstanding one every thread, and still he paints is as a good v. evil, us v. them picture. When will he realize that "spreading our ideaology of hope" won't bloody work?

 

What's worse is the moron spends all of our resources in a war that as NOTHING to do with getting to the root of these terrorist sickos.

And what happened to our "improved" intelligence gathering??? It's high time we faced the fact that we know NOTHING about how the other half lives...or where they'll strike next.

 

Just read the news at work. My condolences to all of the victims. EDIT: MSNBC reports 40 dead and 300 hurt.

And I agree with you Spelly, wholeheartedly. What Bush does down there in Iraq is, if anything, making things worse if CIA analysts are getting the trends right.

Sadly, when Bush and his neo-con morons continue their way, incidents like the mess in London are just the warm-up.

The neo-con the response is pre-programmed: (a) we won't appease terrorists, like those darn Euros do, and therefor we have to act boldly and (b) attack Iran and Syria already ...

 

Holy crap, I just got home from London 5 days ago.

So true.

 

Of course it's Islamic extremists; the bus bomb is rumoured to have been a suicide job. They've been wanting to get London for years - even the government and the police have stated that a major attack was "inevitable" - and now they have.

The BBC says "More than 30" are dead now.

I actually travelled from King's Cross to Liverpool Street about a month ago.

 

But, perversely perhaps, this is only going to cement support for Bush and Blair. If Blair was under fire for Iraq WMD "intelligence failures," more people will be rallying behind him now. This will likely increase enlistment in the UK, increase public tolerance for military and civilian losses in Iraq and Afghanistan, and increase, even if slightly, an invasion of Syria or Iran...

 

A tragedy of this magnitude and we, both in the press and on SP, turn this into a political debate.

There is no political party in either US or UK that would give in to any terrorist demands -- it's a part of the 'never surrender' tradition both countries have (and it's a damn proud tradition at that). This is a time for people to pull together, not point fingers. The finger pointing time comes later, it always does.

 

There's no inevitablity about that; there certainly wasn't for Aznar. (Remember him?)

 

Surfing through some Brit newspapers; on the front page of the telegraph there's a picture of Blair giving a "they will not succeed" speech, with a picture of Churchill and a 60th anniversary of VE/VJ day graphic right underneath. I give about a 0.00% chance of these bombings having the same effect on the UK as the 3/11 ones did on Spain...

 

Next in news: "The king/president of Britain proclaims war against terrorism and blames Saudi-Arabia of the recent explosions in London. He promises that all casualties will be revenged ten-fold. But since US already took Afghanistan and Iraq, including their oil-reserves, he is facing a new dilemma: which country has enough oil to make it worth invading?"

Personally, I can't understand why they target civilians. If they want to play guerilla tactics, then their targets should be in the military and government. Bombing those that do not have anything to do with their "Holy Crusade" is just wrong. (Okay, but then was the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan too. Just think which one did more damage. Speaks about the whole affair being idiotic.)

 

Oh, I'm not implying that anything of the type which happened in Spain will happen here. I'm simply saying that the idea that this is going to lead to some kind of almost total turnaround of Blair's fortunes is nonsense. (There actually hasn't been any great amount of personal support for Blair as PM for more than a year or two now.)

The kind of rallying-round you mention in the newspapers is mandatory on these occassions in the short-term. Especially from a source such as the Torygraph.