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Book Thieves

Discussion in 'Whatnots' started by Taluntain, May 15, 2002.

  1. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    [​IMG] I've noticed an alarming number of people here casually mention (on several occasions) how they steal books from libraries. I don't get it. Is this something really so common in USA that people aren't even shy to brag about it? (I don't expect any of the people who posted before how they stole books to post here too, but it's worth a shot I suppose.)

    I mean, here in Slovenia libraries have all books catalogued and accounted for, and I haven't heard of anyone stealing books before, ever. At worst we copy them whole, but stealing is totally out of the question. Are we the weird ones or what? :hmm:
     
  2. Xenecor Gems: 10/31
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    Why must everything be turned into something speculative of USA commonality?

    The US accounts for all books in the public libraries, as any other library would in the world.
    It's not considered a "cool" thing among Americans to go pilfering library books.
    I've only seen a couple of people mention in other threads about stealing books from the library which I consider to be isolated incidents. Not "trends" among the American people.

    Why anyone would be proud of the fact that they're stealing books is beyond me.



    [This message has been edited by Xenecor (edited May 15, 2002).]
     
  3. Faerus Stoneslammer Gems: 16/31
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    I don't get it either. I volunteer at a library once a week (I need 40 hours community service to graduate high school) and it's a helluva hassle to clean up after thieving bastards. (Please pardon the language, I'm in a pissy mood today)
     
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    How hard can it be to clean up books that aren't there because they've been stolen? ;)
     
  5. 8people

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    People who steal books are losers in my opinion

    I have only stolen books from teachers, then returned them, after seeing if they noticed

    Act casual and they never do...

    Anyway, what is the point of stealing books from libraries?
     
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    See, I feel that this is partially in response to my post about how I had to steal Darkwell from my local library. I was once a "thieving bastard", and a "loser". I was a villianous 12 year old.

    It wasn't as though I held a dagger to the librarian's throat and demanded it, along with a briefcase full of money, then went on the lam to Mexico or anything.

    I took it out, the proper way, claimed to lose it, then paid the fine for having lost it. It was something like $15 for a paperback. I didn't care, because I needed it to finish the trilogy. Plus, I helped the library, because they could order three replacements with my fine money.

    You guys are so angry.
     
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    I have stolen books from my school library when I was in school. Nothing I am proud but at my school they had no alarms on the books or any real control over what happens as they have in bigger libraries.
    But I am also one of those people that dont consider it a crime if you dont get caught (misinterpret me right here, some crimes are always a crime but some friendly theft is no biggy)
     
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    That's sort of the point. Apart from the Library of Congress, it's not as though there's tip-top security at your local public library. (Although there was an uproariously funny article in the Onion about how Cedar Rapids PL was beefing up security after September 11...)

    It's a public library. Stealing a book therefrom is a betrayal of the public trust. It's not a crime to steal books from the library.

    It's a sin.

    I did it once...a copy of Hesse's "Knulp" from the PL in Juneau, Alaska. I walked out of there thinking, 'S**t, that was easy.' It sat on a shelf after I read it for a couple of years, pumping away like Poe's tell-tale heart. I ended up mailing it back with a long letter of apology and a cheque for 50 dollars. (They sent back a thank you note..)
     
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    I have never heard of someone stealing a book from a library, thats pathetic IMO.

    I rarely check out books from the library, prefering to buy them myself, also I have several dollars in library fines.
     
  10. Taluntain

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    [​IMG] Xenecor, speculative of USA only because in the last year and a half I've seen more than a dozen Americans brag about it on various places on the boards, a great deal more than from any other part of the world. That is also why the question was formulated to find out if this is a peculiarity of USA. You answered it isn't. That's fine, I never said it is.

    You should realize that I'm not one to come up with accusations that are not based on fact. (If you can call this topic accusation.) :shame:
     
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    only ever stole a book once... http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000106.html i live in the UK :rolleyes: :grin:

    never before, and probably never again. i was 16 and believed that the school library owed me some kind of souvenir for repeatedly shouting at me to be quiet! besides, the book had seen better days and contains unreproducible scribbled annotations (in pencil) on most of the pages.

    theft for sentimental reasons!
     
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    Never stolen from a library book before. It just seems...well, kinda sad really. And pathetic.

    Although...when I was in elementary school (way back when), I was absolutely flabergasted one day near the end of the school year. They were announcing various little awards (best attendance record, etc), and my name was announced as the student with the fewest overdue books (I think you also had to have taken out so many books to qualify). Funny thing was that I still had a book in my bedroom at home from near the beginning of the school year (I think it was the Hobbit or something) :p

    BTW - I did return it, but still received the award.
     
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    Yeah, Damona, but I was trying to read Darkwell too, and with your $15 they bought three copies of the Nancy Drew mysteries.
     
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    Approximately a dozen claims of book theft in a year and a half is hardly representative of the cumulative millions of people in the US.

    Not to mention that there have been people from other countries "coming out" in regards to their thievery. Most of the time it just seems that it is an act being done by dumb teenagers and kids (a large portion of whom frequent these boards).

    The fact that "some" people have stolen library books as a kid does not make it a common "fact" of the American Public.

    Taluntain, I've been here a long time and I wouldn't have believed you to have made that kind of association before.
     
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    Heh, noticed something like this too. Just the other week I was talking to a friend who was muttering about a school locking it's doors. This person was going to steal a bookshelf because 'I don't have money for one and nobody in the school uses it anyway' and was mad because of the new locks. And it wasn't even a private discussion, just something said casually. I think it goes without saying the person was american :rolleyes:
     
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    Some friends of mine managed to steal a table from a pub once... :)
     
  17. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    [​IMG] Xenecor, did you read a word of my second post? Because that reply of yours certainly doesn't imply it. I wasn't accusing anybody, I was merely making an observation. I don't see why you have to make such a fuss out of something as inconseqential as this.

    Seriously, you need to re-read my posts, because I never said that book theft is something common of the American Public, as you put it. If you still don't get it, the "fact" I was referring to is that more Americans than any other nationality have talked about stealing books on these boards.

    Still, that doesn't necessarily mean anything, which is precisely why I started this topic. If you read the initial post carefully, you'll notice it's a question, not a statement or accusation.
     
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    [​IMG] I don't *steal* library books, I just don't return them. I had this one book I borrowed for summer reading 4 years ago and when my stack of overdue warnings were larger then the book itself- I actually looked for it and found it in the bookcase (oh my!)And I wonder why the librarians hate me.
     
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    I didn't say that I thought it was an accusation or a statement. My post was merely to point out how things repeatedly turn into an "American" problem.

    The fact that I answered your question in my first post shows that I saw it as a question.... not that I thought it to be an accusation.

    I used the word "speculative" for a reason.

    My second post was not entirely addressed to you, so ofcourse some of it wouldn't have anything to do with your post. I've reread your posts several times before posting either of my posts.

    That was meant for you because I never would have thought you would make that sort of association due to some posts you've read.





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  20. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    [​IMG]
    Err, sorry? It's not something I made up.

    As I said, these are my observations based on concrete experience. You can disagree with me, of course. (And you did.)

    So I don't see what the problem is.
     
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