Bus Driver Vs. Crying Baby

If the bus driver felt a screaming baby was putting herself, and her other passengers at risk because it was posing a serious distraction then what's the problem?

There would be more of an issue, if she left the baby as it was, got distracted and caused an accident as a result.

Does raise the question though - If the baby was screaming that badly, then what on earth was the mother doing? Clearly the baby was in a significant amount of discomfort either due to hunger, needing to get changed or some other reason and yet the mother was quite happy just to remain on the bus with the baby in that sort of state.

 

I always thought the acceptible action in such a situation was to throw the baby out the window....

On a more serious note ... Tarrasque have you ever been around a baby for significant period of time? Babies cry for any reason and sometimes no reason at all. A two year old will throw an absolute fit if they don't get to sit in the exact seat they want. They also cry when they're tired, hungry, ill, just had their finger smashed while getting on the bus, had their knee scraped while running to the bus....

Public transportation has babies, sick people, old people wearing diapers and people of various questionable sanity. It comes with the territory. If a person doesn't like it they don't have to use public transportation, nor does a person who can't handle the issues have to work as a bus driver.

 

A similar case in Germany ruled that the Driver was right to kick mom and her wailing package out.

The argument was: It upset the majority of the paying bus-goers.

#shrug#

Bit hard-core IMO.

 

Yeah, as a father, I know that sometimes babies just cry - no matter how much you try to cater to your mini-dictator.

The cry of a baby is extremely irritating though. It amazes me that such a small person can make such a loud noise. I think it's natural selection at work - the babies with the most annoying cries got the most attention and care, and they were the ones that best survived and passed those genes on.

 

This is a age old problem, if this person was a local white majority, nothing would be said, but the transportation authority has a prejudice policy in place " policy prevents them from removing people "of a "vulnerable population." meaning, because this woman was of a minority this has become an issue.

"drivers can take steps if they believe their safety is in jeopardy"

except remove a minority.

reverse prejudice once again.

 

"Vulnerable population" means someone who is at risk if left on their own in the middle of nowhere -- elderly, young children, handicapped, pregnant woman, etc.

 

I disagree, Ive heared that phrase used many times to politely say "a person of a minority who may be at risk from racist attacks"

this woman wouldnt fit into the category you described.

 

The child would -- as would a mother with a small child.

 

My wife goes out with our 7 month old all the time, there's nothing vunerable about it.

 

This is why in the U.S. we all have cars.

 

We don't know the age of the mother in question and only know the child is under two years old. Dependant on the area and state of the woman and child they could be very vulnerable, particularly if dropped off in an unknown area.

We also don't know where they were going - the child could have been grizzling from being tired and it was the trip home, or even a trip to a doctors.

Either way forcing a baby off of a bus, not at an intended stop, with questionable means of getting elsewhere is more of a safety concern imo.

Snook - You read the article, right?

 

if an area raises the question of safety it applies to everyone, infact statistically you are more likely to be attacked if you dont have a baby, I can't recall the last time "mother and baby attacked in street" appeared in any news source, plenty of "man stabbed walking home" appear, so who truly are vunerable from that perspective?

as for means of getting elsewhere, pacify the chile and get on the next bus.

Ive been on a bus before with a screaming child, thinking, well, if the bus crashes I'm glad I'm on the bus, pity for the other poor sod who would probably be killed thinks to a mother who can't control her screaming rat.

 

We've had several occurances in Chicago over the past summer (although in one case it was a grandmother with her granddaughter). Generally these occur in dangerous neighborhoods and are the victims of drive-by shootings. Just because you have no experience in the issue does not mean the issue doesn't exist.

 

What I'm pointing out is that you are more likely to be attacked if you are simply travelling alone, therefore noone should ever be allowed to be ejected from a bus regardless of how they are endangering safety unless they are travelling in a group.