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http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/games/home.html An extreme christian perspective about games.

http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/movies/home.html The same guys but movies.

They are taking everything there as insults against them. They even says that a game contains sexual intercourse because it comes more and more monters on the level. Dont seem to recall which game but it is there, and their opinions sucks mostly.

I am a christian, but this is just plain redicolous. Get some life, like Gopher said in the chat when I posted these links.

Also, in one movie when they display one occult(even though it shows it off as evil) scene it is EVIL and should be banned from eternity but in a different movie that is christian it is totally ok. Why? This is the kind of things that makes us christians seems odd and wierd, while most of us are not.(Ok I am but that doesn't matters here. )

That's all from me this time.

 

Yes, I've seen that one. There's an example of their logic: there are monsters... and there are more of the next period. Ergo they breed. Ergo there's sexual content to the game.

Isn't that morbid? I suppose it's also premarital sex since those trolls can't be married, heh Tell this to your cat.

Swearing... drinking... evil, very evil. Of course it's also evil that there are evil people in the game, because we shouldn't take the world as it is, but make ourselves believe everything is good, lawful and happy. What point going to Heaven then?

I suppose RPG religions and magic is a more complex issue for most of people who care, but some of them actually can't go past their everyday criteria. Magic is wrong per Bible, ergo it's wrong in any case, black or white. However, they don't even care to learn from where magic comes in the particular RPG world in question. If it's a natural force, it's as blasphemous and evil as flying in a plane or using the forces of friction to break. Similarly if someone plays a pagan character, isn't that character supposed to be pious to some extent at least and occasionally refer to the deities he worships - like it happens in classical plays... By the way, aren't actors evil if they Julius Caesar, Hannibal, Electra, Orestes or whomever?

Of course make-believe fantasy realia and actual occult references are two completely different things. While I play d&d and enjoy it, I'm getting sick at the sight of Quake with it's Satanic symbols, of some adventure/strategy/RPG games that present a completely contrfactual twisted image of Christianity and Christian church(es). In addition to this, active promotion of selfishness, violence for its own sake, lack of compassion and consideration, pursueing one's personals gain above everything else, those are truly objectionable content, so far as my opinion is concerned. Those, and not telling the truth about real life realia.

 

But do they actually think that we will go out and watch monsters breed? I know, some of you have sibling(I am one), but you don't want to see them breed, do you? If you do, join us up in the chat and we will harrass you for years.

Seriously, you should look at the Terminator 3 review. They say that the move is making minds in peoples head under 30 because it isn't any "TRUE" good and "TRUE" evil. Suckers.

But I agree a bit on the Quake thing. Since when do aliens worship the devil or such things? If they were smart enough to have religion they wouldn't just walk to you and try to kill you while you have 99% protection and a rocket launcher and they have nothing but claws.

 

You should check out Landover Baptist website.

I believe that this is a parody, but it is damn funny at times.

 

From the Return to Castle Wolfenstein review

What the hell (hmm ironic considering the topic) ?!

It is the return to Castle Wolfenstein which was about killing nazis (and their dogs), and basically being a major leap forward in FPS standards. So if this is the return to Nazi killing land then why should we expect not to be shooting Nazis? Who would they (the reviewer) rather we were shooting? Christians? Jesus himself? Monsters (oh no that would be sexual content, ummmmmmm) . It's, tentatively and technically, historically acurate - the Nazi's existed, quite a few shot at other people, and quite a few were shot. See history!

 

@Lazy Bonzo:

Hehe, and that's where problems start for some people

As for that Landover site, it must be a parody:

This can't be serious, especially that the kid is dressed in camouflaging uniform and holds a gun.

Also 'guaranteeing salvation since 1612' can't be Christian as no Christian church believes one is saved only for being a member or that salvation is guaranteed to anyone, or that any human has any authority over the salvation of other people. [/rant]

 

Strictly speaking, god is not against sex either, it's just that most christians are.

 

Most Christians are against sex now? That's news to me.

If you had a look at the Banjo-Kazooie review you may notice that they get all up in a huff because there was one cut scene with a chick walking down the beach in a bikini. If a child hasn't seen this already then they are either A. deprived, or B. Live a long way from the beach.

 

Duuh, check the movie review section and the Staff > Youth section

Now I am just wondering how they could conquer the earth??

 

Ultima IX

Indeed, that is a most wonderous thing.

But that's a good advice. Keep you hands away from Evercrack.

 

I haven't looked at the review... I will if I have the time and remember to do so. Anyway, I agree with Aikanaro here. Some people seem to be seriously afraid of certain aspects of life and escape into hypocrisy. Giving untrue picture of whatever so that it looked better is not really Christian. Intensions being intensions, that is on the verge of conscious lie. Another thing is that what is really bad in showing a girl in swimsuit? Or even naked, for that matter. Read Genesis, the very beginning. God made humans with bodies and it's they who decided they're 'naked' after they dabbled with things. Of course, this is no excuse for pornography where the whole issue is about making a pervert drool, but some level of temperance, calmness and logical reasoning is always welcome. Phanaticism leads to nowhere, especially if someone creates criteria for himself. Hint: at that point it's no longer what God says, but what the guy thinks himself.

 

Yago noted the same quote that jumped out at me (from Ultima 9):

I believe that this sums up the website pretty well.

 

People like this drive me crazy. They totally give Christians a bad name and they don't think any of their stuff through. For instance fantasy in general isn't that down with them because of MAGIC.... But oh wait, C.S. Lewis and Tolkein are ok because they were Christians themselves. wtf?? *growls* It is these idiot-minded people who cannot see the REALITY around them and yet are convinced that everyone else are deluded freaks. For example, D&D is "Evil" and "bad" Why? Because there are 1) there are multiple deities 2)some of the deities are bad 3)There is magic 4)There is violence . . . oh and the list goes on. But let me make my little point, dieties = angels, archangels etc. Yes, there are FALLEN angels as is with accordance to the BIBLE. Oh and speaking of violence... HELLO??? The Bible is WICKED violent! Have these people ever read it? I HAVE!

When I was a kid, I was totally sheltered. The only channel on tv my parents let me watch was PBS. The only music I got to listen to were Disney and little kid soundtracks. I still got to play D&D with my Dad as DM. My Dad almost became a priest except that he chose to get married. Nevertheless he was still very involved with Christian organizations -- as was my Mom. Oh look. . . they still are. I, myself, read the bible. These people however, really really tick me off.

It is like the book, "Harry Potter and the bible." Yes, I read it. It the most terrible, twisted peice of stuff I have ever had the displeasure to lay my hands on. I threw it against the wall several times. The author whom I shall not degrade by mentioning his name, took peices of the Harry Potter books and twisted them. He then tries to hide behind Free Speach and "opinions" so that he doesn't get sued. But this goes beyond "having an opinion" because he tries to back up his opinion with evidence thus attempting to make his opinion be a fact. However all of his "evidence" is but oh-so twisted quotes from the books. And I do mean oh-so twisted.

I hate people like that.... So yeah. Maybe I should stop now before my head explodes.... Sorry for that insane rant... As you can see, this has been a good 6 years of pent up anger at self-righteous idiotic and completely hypocritical Christians who try to ban things like reading the Koran or Harry Potter or learning the theory of evolution. . . I mean in the end, none of that is really what a Christian is all about. I read the Koran. I didn't agree with all of it but I can at least respect Islam as a religion and I even believe that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. And doesn't Jesus constantly preach tolerance, acceptance, and love? And why can't these "Christians" get it through their head that HEROES like Harry Potter, Zorro, Drizzt Do'Urden and all them are GOOD guys, with good morals who fight for the RIGHT? Just because Jesus was total pacifist doesn't mean everyone can be. I mean aren't they always going on about the war between heaven and hell? And I'm a pacifist but I believe in protecting innocent lives even at the cost of being violent/harming non-innocents. *sigh* I see that I am continuing my rant and rave again. So I'm sorry and I would also like to point out that C.S. Lewis actually detested these kind of people too. If you've read his books, you'll pick up on it.

Also, who actually thinks of monsters breeding when they're playing the games? I mean seriously. Don't you just go up a level and think oh this level is supposed to be more difficult so there are more monsters. I mean who really thinks "Hey why are there more monsters on this level than the last one? They must be breeding." If anything people go "Oh the programmers must have ran out of slightly more creative ways of making it more challenging."

Okay I promise, I'm done for real now. Bet none of you actually read that big long thing the whole way through

 

Because if they ever curse or kills someone they are EVIL and should be burned on a stick. Think that website, think the people that tried to burn Viconia on a stick. Or think the people that killed Jesus, they are as hyphocratic as you can be and so are the ones that are running that website. If anyone finds a way to e-mail these guys give me the adress please. I would like to...


...discuss with them.

 

You can read (only good ) and send comments of movie section from here .

I found that site funny, but I was shocked, because some people really think like that. These lines are quoted from Fellowship of the Ring review:

So, every should be black and white? You're either good or evil, there's nothing between. That doesn't sound good to me.

Oh no, they kill orcs! Those fanatics could kill pagans and people from other religions, I am sure of it. And they are humans.

At least there wasn't any babbling about magic. I was surprised.

If someone finds this offensive, this isn't anything against you, it's only against those people who keep that website.

 

LOL. A quote from their opinion of Banjo-Kazooie:

A cartoon, in bikini, is offensive to children under thirteen? I wonder, do christians ever go to beaches with their children under thirteen? Don't the christian children under thirteen not see women in bikinis, or are there special christian beaches where all women wear cardboard boxes around them? Ridiculous.

 

Hmmm, Im wondering how Christian fundies do breastfeeding. "Dont look! Else you be burning in hell!"

Oh well, every group has its idiots

 

Hey I agree with you velve, those kind of people are what give us christians a bad name all too often. And the reasons they give... absolutely pathetic and stuipid if you ask me.

 

@Silverblade: parents should care about what their children watch, read, play etc. That woman in bikini makes the game no more immoral than a beach is made immoral by real women, exactly as you say, BTW.

That a 13 year old boy might even masturbate to that picture is a completely different thing. He will find suitable pictures everywhere. Angels in Christian books are pretty lasses, aren't they?
Or the real ones that can be photographed. It's still not good if you contribute to the oppurtunity - and I haven't seen that picture to tell if it was designed specifically to arouse teen lads or not (and I suspect not).

Well, there are absolute standards for good and evil. But not everything is obvious and readily apparent, if that's what you mean. Also people in the real world aren't all saints or devil's servants. There's no point making them so in books and pretending the world looks like that. However, children don't have the necessary qualities to discern the right from the wrong fully (not that the parents have, but they're closer). Sometimes writers and designers present controversial issues as natural, normal, obvious and not requiring a comment, just because they are so. Even prostitution and drug dealing goes this way. The trouble with books and games isn't that heroes aren't saints and villains aren't fully unholy, but that sometimes villains are assigned unrealistic good streaks and all heroes present are severely flawed. Generally so long as there is no conscious manipulation on the side of the author, there's no big problem about this (black&white or grey), unless his views are quite peculiar. Another factor contributing here is the rule that ends sanctify means, which is not as simple in life as in some books.

Personally I don't see all those wrongs in Harry Potter, but I haven't read it, so I can't be sure. What I see as a problem is kids thinking that they're mighty sorcerers and it's enough to utter a few words to solve their problems in life. Also kids emulating Harry Potter and his friends. I've seen kids *using* surnames from Harry Potter books with their real-life names. Or kids dressing looking like another little Harry. Or kids running all around with wands and scorning mughols who don't know anything about the world or life because they haven't read Harry Potter. Here belong parents, family, teachers, clergymen etc.

Edit: Before you quote me from this post and reply or ask further questions, please make sure that the issue isn't addressed by my longer post above. Let's keep SP clean and ourselves sane

 

Well that fully depends on who you class as children. I mean here in Britain, anyone under 18 is still a kid. That is pretty stipid, because I would assume that anyone who is 10 or above would understand the difference between good an evil, but some of the stuff you hear about on the news, or in the papers, well some people obviously don't know the difference. But I don't understand why under 18s are still children. You can have sex from 16, and marry, so why are you still not a legal adult.

Going back to the topic, I've read some of the stuff, and think it a bit harsh. I suppose I am a christian, I have been confirmed, and baptised, but some of the stuff here is going too far. There is no problem if the game player realises that this stuff isn't real. I'm 15 (in 17 days) but I'm not going around thinking because I can cast spells on BG2, that I can be Britain's answer to Elminster. If guys actually think this, maybe a reality check is in order.

(BTW Chev, not having a go at you. Okay? )