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demi-lich

Discussion in 'BG2: Shadows of Amn (Classic)' started by Tiberius, Aug 3, 2004.

  1. Tiberius Gems: 6/31
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    [​IMG] I have battled this bad boy for 2 hrs with absolutely nothing to show for it but a dead party. I am able to kill the first body but the second coming of Kangaxx is a little different. I am hitting him with Carsomyr, and Crom Faer and throwing more sunrays, breach, pierce magic spells than you can shake a stick at. Anybody got a sure fire way to kick this guys butt.
     
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    Whoo boy. Just do a search for Kangaxx on these boards; there's probably several dozen topics on it.

    In general, you want to find a way to become immune to his Imprisonment ability, and there are various ways of doing that. One popular way is to use one of the two Protection from Magic scrolls that Ribald sells.
     
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    He's immune to spells level 1-9 as well, so magic is pretty much useless against him.
     
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    It wont take much to destroy the dreaded demilich.

    Make one of your companions immune to his imprisonment spells. The cheapest way would be an enraged Korgan. A scroll of Protection from Magic available in the Adventurers Mart will serve just as well. Anyway, put Korgan or whoever else is prepared properly close to Gaxx so he will waste his spells on him and have your spellcasters use Melfs Minute Meteors on him. To make sure you whack him in time also use the Ring of the Ram.
    Et voila - dead demilich, lots of xp, nice loot, all without fancy weapons or highlevel spells.
     
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    Ziad I speak in rebuses Veteran

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    Woohoo, my very first post. Sweet :)

    It's quite simple, really. This is what I did with Edwin. Give him a girdle of strength, the Staff of the Magi (which hits as a +5 weapon, so hurts the demilich), then summon a few decoys. Cast haste (to get 2 attacks per round), Spell Trap, and finally Tenser's Transformation. By using the Ring of the Ram for some extra damage, it is actually possible to kill Kangaxx using Edwin (or any mage. I guess a fighter/mage would be even easier) alone. It was the most fun battle I've had too.

    One thing just occurred to me. If I recall correctly, the Mace of Disruption +2 can actually hit as a +5 weapon, and if that's the case it probably has a chance to kill Kangaxx with one hit... I remember once killing him with a one-shot weapon, but i can't remember if this was it.
     
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    You are absolutely correct - on both counts. It can hit him, and it can insta-kill him. However, don't forget that there is a save allowed for the IMoD. While I don't know what Kangaxx's saving throws are off the top of my head, I'd imagine they'd be pretty low. And all of the lower saving throw spells like Greater Malison and Doom aren't going to help you here. So it's possible to insta-kill him just very unlikely.
     
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    An easy tactic for low-level parties with a 12 or higher level druid (Jaheira does it):
    If you want to kill Kangaxx with a low-level party, it's basically a suicide as warriors have too high (=bad) THAC0 and can't hit the lich.
    Use the Protection from Magic scroll or in case of a wizard try using Spell Immunity: Abjurations if you don't have or don't want to use the valuable Prot. from Magic scroll. Fight Kangaxx in melee (go to him with the wizard), you won't hit him but meanwhile summon a fire or air elemental with your druid. Let the elemental attack Kangaxx from the back. The demilich won't turn back to imprison the elemental. I think 2 elementals are adequate, always summon the new one when the previous dies.
     
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    just do spell immunity for imprisonment, then carsomyr, sling of evereed (sp?) and stuff like that.
     
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    Aldeth,

    As I said, killed Kangaxx with the very first hit, which means his saving throws weren't so good after all. I guess that, by making him immune to all spells (as you have pointed out), BioWare neglected to adjust his saving throws...

    On the other hand, this strategy didn't work with the ToB Demilich, so I guess they did adjust the saves there.

    In any case, it's such a simple thing to do that it's always worth a try.
     
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    Yeah I killed him with one hit to, was really lucky though, because since I had the "Smarter liches" from tactics mod Kangaxx casts teleport field so all my characters got teleported around, and luckily my barb with MoD+2 equipped got teleported right next to kangaxx, I attack and kangaxx goes down in 1 hit, 0.1 sec after my barb gets teleported away again, was really funny, like *tele*hit*tele* all happended in less then a second :D
     
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    I beat him soloing a sorcerer @ lvl 17. Wayyy to easy for being kangaxx lol. I just put up spell immunity to his imprisonment which *luckily* also took out a few more of his powerful spells in his lich form. Took me a few tries on that. Now the DEMI LICH is another story... it was a laugh as he sent countless imprisonments at me like 10 times a round because he couldn't touch me so I just hacked away at him. I was gonna use a scroll of prot. from magic but I was young and had foolishly used them on the other two liches :) .
     
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    @ Ziad

    I think it is more likely that you got lucky. I seriously doubt the Kangaxx has poor saving throws. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if all of his saving throws were around 2 or 3. However, even if they are all 2, you would still have a 5% chance of insta-killing him. Can this be looked up on Shadow Keeper? There has to be some way to find this out for sure. I'd be shocked if ANY of Kangaxx's saving throws were higher than 5.
     
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    Kangaaxx's saves:

    Paralyzation, Poison, Death Magic: 8
    Rod, Staff, Wand: 3
    Petrification/ Polymorph: 5
    Breath Weapons: 7
    Spells: 4

    I guess the planners had relied on his immunities more than anything.
     
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    Wow! OK, I'm shocked. I'm assuming it would be considered a save vs. Death, and therefore a roll of 7 or lower would be considered a failed save, or 35%. That's about 1 in 3. So while it still isn't a probability, it certainly is a possibility.
     
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    After you figure it out, the Lich form is actually harder than the Demi-Lich form (well, IMO). A double shot of Sunray usually works for me, as does the (improved) Mace Of Disruption. Keldorn is handy to have here since his True Sight and Dispel abilities will take down even Kangaxx's defences while he's still *just* a Lich.

    A double-dose of Spell Immunity (Abjuration, then Necromancy) or a Protection From Magic scroll will render you 100% immune to Kangaxx The Demi-Lich's magics. You need a +4 weapon to hit the guy, so whip out Cutthroat, Boneblade, Carsomyr, Crom Faeyr, Wave, Dragon's Breath, Staff Of The Magi and anything else +4 or better you can lay your hands on. Ring Of The Ram works as well. Not sure if Mordekainen's Sword works, but Kangaxx will just Imprison it anyway.
     
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    Try using traps to eliminate the first form of Kangaxx, then unload all your tanks on him with +5 weapons, with a Spell Immunity or Protection from Magic scroll cast on them, should make short work of Kangaxx.

    Edit: Woo hoo, new gem!! :D :D
     
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    I did it after Spellhold, so I had the Slayer ability. He turned into the Demi, I turned into the Slayer, and slaughtered him.
     
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    The Flame Blade (IIRC. You get it from that Shadow Druid just in front of the grove.) is considered +4, and therefore can kill Kangaxx. The best thing about it is you can get it right off the starting block.

    Fighter/Mage or Mage/Thief are so easy to whack ol' Gaxx. +4 weapon and Spell Immunity: Abjuration (maybe a death ward from a cleric if you want.) is all you need.
     
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    So is Haer'Dalis - he has everything he needs to make Kangaxx's resurrection short-lived, plus he's a strong NPC and means your protagonist doesn't have to be put at risk.

    Do you need a mod or patch for this? I've tried it before (since the Sword of Flame Tongue is my all-time favourite D&D weapon, courtesy of Lord Soth), and I always seem to get "Weapon Ineffective" messages. Same goes for any Lich using Mantle/Improved Mantle.

    Maybe I'm just going crazy... but I'd love to whack Kangaxx with a flaming sword. It just has that "fires of purification" feel to it, and my Undead Hunter is big on putting the walking dead to the torch.
     
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    And undead must save with a -4 penalty against those 2 fine weapons, the MOD and the azuredge axe.
    I see that liches often fail their save. One blow is often enough! For instance, you know that before Kangaxx you must face two other tough liches. It happens that after their speech and before their protections trigger, the deftly thrown azuredge kills them!
     
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