Do you trust your goverment blindly?

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The whole thing with the war on Iraq and the discussions here in SP brought up this question to my mind. Do you trust your govements choices blindly?
I don't trust my countrys goverment blindly. Every choice is made must fit some criteria first to be counted as a good/wise choice. These criteria are rather simple. Is this for the benefit of at least the larger proportion of the population; (even if i'm not included). How this will affect the relationships with the rest of the world and as far as it concerns the international affairs decisions are tey according to the international law; And of course is the given decision respecting the nature; (this is most important in our time).
Please tell me how do you feel about your goverment

 

It's the same for me. Politics are always about interests, and often about interests of particular groups. Sometimes, the decisions are simply dumb, though.

IMHO, you should always be wary about what makes your government do something.

 

If you trust something blindly, you don't realize you're trusting blindly.

I think that made sense. Myself, I take everything the government does with a big heaping bowl of salt. Of course, I'm quite cynical.

 

Yeah, not blindly I don't.

But a lot of times, I end up choosing the lesser of two evils. I think that a lot of Americans end up having to do the same thing. They don't like either choice, but there's one they can say they hate less than the other.

I could put some similies and examples in here, but I don't wanna hiijack it.

 

I absolutly love my country, and i support G.W. Bush in his recent endeavors. However, as a whole i fear my government. i'm not joking.

 

I certainly don't trust Jean Chretien or his band of thugs any further than I could throw them. I guess I could say that I trust them implicitly -- to do what's best for them! Sometimes, that helps me, and sometimes, it hoses me. But I have no illusions that they are there "for the good of the people." They SHOULD be, but they sure aren't.

 

Government is not a god. Therefore I can't trust it blindly.

 

While I don't think that anyone I know is willing to say that they trust their government blindly, I think more than one person in the world blindly never trusts their government.

 

You should never have to trust them blindly in the long run, but sometimes, for short periods, you have no choice. In times of crisis, such as war, civil unrest, or natural disaster, the government has resources, experts, and a view of the entire picture that those of us who spend a couple of hours a day evaluating the news simply cannot match. They can devote their full attention to the planning and coordination of a solution, and have experts in their employ who can do the same. A great example of this was the war in Iraq. We weren't 10 days in and “experts”, even some former US military generals, were proclaiming that the effort was doomed, that there were far to few troops, that the supply lines were to long, and that we were leaving too many hostiles behind in our "mad rush" to Baghdad. They were wrong. Of course all those same "experts" are saying that we are doomed to failure in trying to establish a representative democracy in Iraq. I guess we will have to wait and see.

That said, if they betray that trust, out they go in the next election, or if a severe enough betrayal, recall them from office.

The problem is that we don't kick them out. That is part of why there are breakdowns in the political system. Most people have short memories and are willing to forgive transgressions as long as the politician does something good (real or perceived) before the next election. (Sen. Kennedy, Sen. Clinton, and Sen. Byrd all come to mind for those of us in the US. I would name some Republicans, but Lott and Gingrich did lose their jobs, I guess that is the difference between the party that believes in responsibility and…)

I know everyone is tired of hearing it from me, but actions must have consequences, else the world is full of mistrust and chaos. The ideology of political correctness is part of the reasons why you cannot trust governments. It used to be that if you lied under oath, you lost your political position. Today, a remark that is perceived as racially insensitive will cost you your job, but lying, cheating, stealing, beating your wife, doing illegal drugs, and driving drunk are just part and parcel to politicians.


http://www.theindependent.com/stories/012000/opi_ayoub20.html

 

I am quite happy with my goverments. yep, plural. Of course there are a lot of politicans, from whom I don't expect anything good. Actually, the most of them. And I have to accept, that when they're in charge, they're able to screw up things. The good side is, that the traditional mistrust versus goverment in my country is so big, that we don't let them decide any real important stuff.

 

I'm with Depaara (being from the same country) except alot more extreme. If I had the nerve and thought it would help, I'd walk up and... uhh, something. He's spent a cool BILLION on a gun registry program that won't do **** and he anually give 900 million to the CBC (canadian broadcasting corp.) 20% of the taxes go to paying of the INTEREST of the national debt(900 BILLION!). I really wish a different party could get into power. The Canadian Alliance, the republic party, would be my bet (I'd go with the NDP, the socialist party, but they're dicks).

 

For starters, i don't even have a government
Those morons in The Hague can't even make a deal

and after that fiasco, there is no ******* way I'm going to trust them, after all power corrupts

 

Rotflmao. Our "goverment" is... well, the only GOOD thing I can say right now is that bot the president and the prime minister are women.

One of the female ministers actually asked her husband if she could take the offered position... how sad is that? Another one is a former beauty pageant winner, as in Miss FInland.... how sad can it GET? And don't get me started on thwe 200 goons in the parliament... *shudder*

No, I do not trust my goverment. Blindly, even less so. It's only people.

(Being nasty... and needing food)

 

@ Yago: No wonder you're happy. You can directly interfere with the course your governments are taking. I wish we could.

@ Arabwell: I thought Finnland was one of the happiest countries in the world?

 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. The real bug in this topic is not only the current goverment in any place in this world, IMHO the whole politicalsystem is having serious problems. In my country at least the politicians have become a sort of trade and in fact many politicians have helped (enforced their children in politics.
So now there is a major (IMO) problem/question.
How can i trust the decisions that litterally affect my life to someone who has found everything ready and have never depended on the salary that comes every month. I know for a fact that in Greece the rift between their world and ours (simple people) is almost chaotic.
What really scares me is the fact that the decisions made by these guys are unrealistic or worse affecting only the mass and leaving their slumber untouched.
Maybe it's the time to do something about it;

 

Heck no. Why should I? I don't even trust my own parents and best friends blindly, with them I just consider it my duty to act in a self-destructive way should it be needed for their benefit. I've said it before and I'll say it again: All forms of fanaticism and zealousness for any, *any* cause you can imagine, is dangerous and stupid. I believe in nothing, yet I reserve my belief for everything.

 

@ Morgoth

But even if we do have one, i don't trust them. They're only out there to think of ways to take your money. Our taxsystem must be one of the most complex systems in the world. Have you ever heard of pleasuretaxes ? It exists, for people who own a boat. If you read the paperwork involved, you'll be laughing your ass off, either that or crying from anger.

 

FInland may be a happy country, and it is, a great place to live and to be, and I DO love my country.. it's just that of the current goverment only the President has my respect...

Right now the things are fine. Who know how they will be in the future with... people... like these?

(Who, me, nasty?)

 

I guess government as a whole is a difficult and vulnerable topic if not task. for an entire country of people to agree upon or accept anything, is mindblowing. won't ever happen.

What about world citizenship? one government for all ? is it possible? we would have to decide on a common language. Hopefully not spanish or Spanglish or whatever they call it here in so.California.

 

English seems to be the most common language around so there would be less people to teach it to. The problem is that you would have to convince several thousand people in positions of power to step down. Also an entire planet is very difficult to govern effectively besides the fact that some people would refuse to be ruled by a system so massive.

As for the main post question, I'm a conspiracy theorist, after what I've seen I don't even trust my toilet paper.

Obviously I'm kidding though I never really trust anybody, just because you don't know why they'd lie doesen't mean that they're not lying.

[ May 05, 2003, 08:00: Message edited by: rastilin ]