English Grammar question

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Is proper grammar "~, someone and me." or "~, someone and I" ?

 

It's "~, someone and I".

If you want to be sure, just add a verb at the end and check if the three elements fit with that verb.

Ex.: Bob, someone and I were walking in the park.
1- Bob was walking in the park
2- Someone was walking in the park
3- I was walking in the park

Everything fits. However, with "~, someone and me", #3 would become *Me was walking in the park, which doesn't work.

So there you have it.

 

The answer above is only partly correct. You could conceivably use "someone and me" as the direct object of a sentence, or as the object of a preposition, although it might sound a little strange. "The police caught someone and me in the park." "Mary was walking in the park with someone and me." The strange sound is pairing "someone" with "me" in this case, as you would ostensibly know who was with you. But it makes perfect grammatical sense.

 

Just remember this simple phrase:
'I' before 'Me' except after 'We'

Or am I getting confused with something else?

 

"Me" is incorrect. Yet it is common and seems to have abolished the correct form "I". So, "Me" is, as confusing that is, correct. But the grammatically correct form "I" is also allowed... it is the grammatically correct form after all.

So, the answer to "Who is there ?" is "me". If you happen to be an English teacher, you are also allowed to say "I". Because you can prove that the proper form would be nominative, because someone (subject) is actually there and that someone can't possibly be a dative object in the same sentence...

Now to "thou", "thy" and "thee"...

Thinking about it, them wouldn't give I the right to say "I" in cases an "I" would be necessary because me doesn't happen to be any kind of English teacher.

 

It's whatever sounds the best -can't you do it on hear-say already?

 

The answer to this question is very simple. Djeff and Eric are on the right track. Use 'I' when you are the subject of the clause (i.e. the one 'doing' the verb) and use 'me' when you are the object (i.e the one have the verb done to you). Therefore:

"Rotku and I watched New Zealand win the basketball last night"

and

"The New Zealand basketball team took Rotku and me by surprise when they beat the Serbians."

 

Don't believe the hype!

Someone and me is legal English!

This one

 

I think my explanation made more sense than that one (even though the answer was the same). If the sentence still makes sense when you remove 'Someone and' then it is valid. That's about all there is to it.

 

Thanks you everyone.
@Wirhe I don't trust my hear-say anymore, because it's getting a little confusing. I have been out of the States for over six years, after all, and it's all a little vague now.

 

The forms "I", "we", "he", "she", "they" etc are Nominative and only that. Therefore:

It's I. It's we. It's he. It's she. It's they.

She and [/b]I[/b] drank ourselves into oblivion and the light became dim as we hit the floor.

They saw you and her running.

It's incorrect to say, for instance They saw you and she running, or She and me drank..., so the limitation works both ways, ie sometimes it's correct to say "me" and incorrect to say "I" as well as the other way round (the classic "it's me" problem).