Gunning Down Romance

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Yeah, I know, I am a pathetic Savage Garden fan. Deira infected me.

Anyways, if you had the chance to take away all love in the world and make it so, that nobody never knew, would you do it? And that applies to all kinds of love.

[ February 12, 2003, 13:43: Message edited by: Eze ]

 

If I took it away without anybody knowing it, would it matter?? At least we lost hate as well then

 

Shouldn't be too hard to guess my answer... an emphatic NO!

 

No, we wouldn't lose hate. Hate and love are at the same end of the sceptrum. Total opposite is apathy.

 

But without love, how can you define hate??

 

Without love, there is still respect. You can define hate as lack of respect. Or something like that.

 

Nope, hate is not the opposite of respect

[ February 12, 2003, 21:09: Message edited by: Morgoth ]

 

What beautiful things would life have to offer without love? If apathy ruled the day, we wouldn't care it was so. Now we know the brilliance of love, we wouldn't want to miss it.
(Speak for yourself, MoN)

When our love ends, we musn't complain that it brought us destruction, since it is the lack of love then that makes you feel horrible.

Love hurts? Love scars? Love wounds in your heart? Bullocks!
Lack hurts. Lack wounds in your heart.
Love caresses. Love heals your heart.
Though the scar shows you had a nice time with love.

(You still get it?)

 

Morgoth:Well, it's not the opposite of respect, but it could be measured with something else, except love.

MoN:Sorry, as a little [insert a very mean word here], I would even say yes. And love does scar. Love? No thanks, I'd like to have my heart in one piece, when I die.

[ February 12, 2003, 21:17: Message edited by: Eze ]

 

Gunning Down Romance - Savage Garden (Affirmation
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Love and other moments are just chemical reactions in your brain
In your brain
And feelings of aggression are the absense of the love drug in your veins
your veins
Love come quickly
Because I feel my self-esteem is caving in
It's on the brink
Love come quickly
Because I don't think I can keep this monster in
It's in my skin

Love are other sociably acceptable emotions are morphine
They're morphine
Cleverly concealing primal urges often felt but rarely seen.
Love I beg you
Lift me up into that privelaged point of view
The world of two
Love don't leave me
Because I console myself that hallmark cards are true
i really do
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

I'm gunning down romance
It never did a thing for me
But heartache and misery
Ain't nothing but a tragedy
I'm gunning down romance
It never did a thing for me
But heartache and misery
Ain't nothing but a tragedy

Love don't leave me

Take these broken wings
I'm gonna take these broken wings
And learn to fly
And learn to fly away
And learn to fly away

I'm gunning down romance.

I have never fallen in love (I take it computers are excluded) but without it what would family be? Friends? Treasured possessions.

All are destroyed in the end, memories fade, people die, times move on.

Does love matter? Some will think it does - others that it does not. I think it does matter, without love from my mother I would be long gone. I need someone who understands me, I need my family and friends because without them I would go insane, and probably kill my self - through suicide or accident.

The only reason I am still arguably sane is because of my mother. because she loves me.

 

But eze, how can respect excist without love??

 

I dunno, I think that you can have respect without love. I believe that respect mostly stems from admiration, because you see something in that person that you like and wish that you had yourself. To think that respect and love are in the same family is a bit much because love is such an intense feeling, you know. It can blind you to everything else, but with respect, you don't love that person, you could just like what they say or do, etc., etc.

But to answer the question, no, I wouldn't take love away. In its purest form, I do believe that love is more powerful then gravity. Unfortunately, people do get hurt, and it's most probably caused by some immature invididual who doesn't realize or understand what love, or the lack of it, can do to a person. And that's my 2 cents.

 

You can respect someone out of fear as well. Respect is simply a matter of recognizing another person, it doesn't have to be recognizing them in a good way. I can respect my elders and still get flustered when they drive too slowly on the roads.

Would I? No, because I'm sittin' pretty as far as love goes, and I wouldn't know what to do without it.

 

Respect always has something to do with fear. To "respect", is to recognize some sort of prowess in another person. This prowess is automatically reflected to how others, and you yourself, fare in it. A respected person, essentially means a person who has accomplished something material or otherwise, and potentially poses a threat to you. Someone who can fare without you, and possibly even act against you should he need to.

My most common problem is that I do not invoke respect automatically. I need to work for it. It's because I do not feel I have to make other people aware of my opinions when there is nothing to be accomplished by doing so. If someone wishes to whine about the ways of the world, I'm silent and listen to them, or nonchalantly agree. Only if there really is a need to intervene, will I do so. I try to agree and please as many people as I can because I think it's stupid to be put on useless confrontations and quarrels all the time. Yet because of this, people often take me as a "yes man" who can be pushed around to any extent. Then they get negatively surprised when they cross the border and actually awaken the need for defensive actions in me.

I've learned that my work, studies, free-time and all go much better when I act like other people do. I pretend to disagree even if I don't, and I bring up matters that are of no relevance simply to seem normal. I threaten people subtly because they do it to me, once again for no reason. And every now and then I whine about things that I don't care about because it makes people think that I do, and therefore effectively making clear that I do not wished to be stepped on. All this because I, as a person who doesn't wish to subjugate other people, must exist with other people who constantly test and battle each other ever so subtly when trying to reach for a better position in the hierarchy of personal respect and atmosphere of power. As rediculous as it is, I cannot let a comment like "get out of my face idiot" slide without caring about it, because the others will get a picture that I'm a mentally weak individual who can be used for their own advantage. Adults are like children, at least the ones I know. All ranting left aside, I've studied the concept of "respect" to know pretty much what I'm talking about. The years ago I learned to get my respect, I felt it was frustrating to act like an "evil" idiot just because of the simplicity of other people. Nowadays I can actually enjoy it, even as dumb and useless as it still feels.

 

YES...

Love is annoying. It rarely works, and before you can reach it, it is full of heartbreaks. I may be playing devil's advocate, but this is what I've learned, in my experiences. Forasdathar's tirade rings true; respect is sometimes very gilded and acts like a facade. I agree that love is essential to the human world - but only in our time. However, if we were to never know it, we would be better off. People would care less about what others said about them and we wouldn't be obssessed with the way we talk or look in front of others. Simply put, "Ignorace is bliss, ignorance of love is better."

But then again, that wouldn't make us human anymore...

[ February 15, 2003, 09:55: Message edited by: Farthy ]

 

*A dark figure jumps out of the tree he had been lurking in, over the little bench where a guy and girl are kissing. He lands behind them, softly on the grass. They don't notice the stealthy hunter who makes himself as small as possible on the ground behind their bench. He jumps over them and the bench with a salto, and in mid air he draws two glocks with silencers. The lovers break free from their 'bonds of love' and look at the dark figure gazing at them from midair. Seconds seem to pass like hours. As he lands he shoots them both, cleanly between the eyes. He turns around and hums the tune to 'Love is in the air' while walking away quietly back into the shades.*

That was the mental picture I got from reading the thread title

And no, I wouldn't. The world is already filled with enough hatred, let's let love run free when possible.

[ February 15, 2003, 10:47: Message edited by: Faragon ]

 

I wouldn't mind having that scenario happen to some people!