Hockey players dying

My guess would be stereoid repercussions.

 

Hockey players?! Oh *ice* hockey players.... pfff.

 

Would steroids even help hockey players? I'm not sure that an extra thirty pounds of muscle is going to help someone skate fast up and down the ice.

 

All who died were "thugs" designated fighters. Muscle would definitely help them and most likely all hockey players but the fighters in particular.

 

Sport isn't about the competition anymore, just about money!

And there are lots of kinds of 'medicine' to push results. Steroid are but one of them!

 

I don't believe there's any statistical significance here. Just 3 coincidental deaths. Sad, tragic, and a loss, but not indicative of any drug policies or concussion policies that need revision.

 

I think the problem is the title of the topic. They aren't just dying - which could be steroid use. They are freaking killing themselves - that ain't steroid use.

 

Afaik steroids may cause mental issues and whatnot as one of the side effects. Higher aggression, depression that kind of thing.

 

True - I was simply pointing out that prolonged steroid use is associated with many health problems later in life. Many people who use steroids for a long period of time die in their 40s and 50s. However, I would be hesitant to say this is the cause of depression in these athletes. Steroid use was rampant in US pro football in the 80s, and we didn't have players killing themselves. (Many died very young, but they did not end their own lives.)

In fact, given the nature of drug testing in professional sports today (and that is wasn't done for years earlier) suggests to me that if anything fewer athletes are using steroids today than they were 20-30 years ago.

 

The hockey players that died suffered from depression. A lot of people are starting to talk about depressions brought on by concussions. As "tough guys", they take on many concussions while fighting. With all the deaths lately, many former "tough guys", like former Lightning and Senetors André Roy, who say that it's not easy for a role player like that. You feel you aren't really part of team because you don't play most games, often don't practice at the same time as others. You start to feel kind of useless. That might be why depression creeps in.

 

There have been how many now? Three recently? Here's the thing I don't get. Hockey players have been getting concussions since... well pretty much since they started playing hockey. Hell, they played hockey for decades without wearing helmets! There had to have been a ton of concussions then. And you're definitely right that concussions can bring about depression, but again, since they've been playing hockey for so long, this cannot be a new phenomenon either. So.... why now? That's what has me stumped.

And as for hockey players dying, how about that plane crash - it wiped out the whole team. While I feel terrible about the players and their families, it also leaves me to wonder what that league is going to do - they lost an entire team. What do you do with the games that they were scheduled to play?

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what Aldeth was referring to in his last post...

I agree that it's a pretty big tragedy. My thoughts are with the player's families.

As for the management, the owners said they would reconstruct the team, but I wonder how this will work. Will they do an expansion draft like they would a new team? Will they just be stuck selecting players that no team wanted to sign? For this year though, they'll likely just cancel every game against the Lokomotiv. I guess they'll deduct it from the calendar, but I guess they'll have to retouch the calendar. Some teams probably played more games against the Lokomotiv, so they might end up playing less games in the year than others.

As for concussions, it's also a question of respect. They didn't need helmets in the 70's and older. The players never targeted the heads. They would often shout to the player they were going to check to make sure he knew they were coming. Today, the players are almost trying to kill each other on the ice. There were never as many concussions as now. Some are tying the restrictions and newer penalties with the growing number of head hits.

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Just read an article. Alexander Medvedev, the KHL president, is negotiating a deal with the other 18 teams. They would rebuild the team for the present season. Every team would offer up to three players in which the Lokomotiv would choose. 35 undisclosed players avec also offered their services.

 

There's something mildly sickening about how the main concern, one day after the crash, is what the effects will be on the Hockey season.

 

To the owner who is still alive, it's all about the ...

 

No doubt there are millions of dollars involved, but I also think it's a natural reaction. If you aren't a personal friend or a family member of one of the players (and as the owner, he's probably not friends with the players - they are his employees), then I think wondering how it will affect your business is a normal response.

I only remember a couple of the people on the plane from their NHL days, I wasn't fans of any of them, I'm not an owner, and about 10 minutes after my initial reaction of shock and sadness for those affected, I thought to myself, "I wonder what their going to do about the hockey season?"

 

I tend to agree with Aldeth here. Let's say the president or leader of another country dies, we of course have a thought for the family. But soon after, we'll think "what happens now, who will replace him?".

I liked Pavol Demitra. I always thought he was a decent player (though I remember at an all-star game one year where he did the shot accuracy competition and didn't hit once any of the targets. I remeber laughing my ass off, and as the good sport he was, he was laughing too.)

 

If the leader of a country dies, that's serious business and it could have a significant impact on a lot of people's lives. Sports are recreation ... the greatest impact anything having to do with them could have is on your recreation.

The idle curiosity of disinterested persons is normal I'm sure and not deserving of derision. What I'm aiming at is those who are close to it - owners, commissioners, whatever. It's that game-must-go-on mentality, the same thing that makes (American) football teams resume play on the rare occasions when a player dies on the field or is critically injured. The only thing hanging in the balance is money. If that's why the game must go on, okay, but I'd rather they not try to bull***t me about where their priorities lie. The decent thing to do would be to call off the frigging game and focus on the dead/mamed guy for a minute or two. The fate of the season doesn't really matter when compared to things like life and death.

btw, the sole survivor from the crash died. Poor him.

 

I thought they did call off the games being played that day.