I hate anime

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Well no, not really.. I don't hate all anime. I like Cowboy Bebop, Big O, Golgo-13 and other serious ones.

I just despise the cutesy **** like Tenchi Muyo, or that insipid hamster one.

I also hate those mondo-weirdo freaks who think anime is the only way of life.

I hate how some of them actually say and use cartoon character's facial expressions in conversations like "Oh my god no!. Sweatdrop!"

I hate how some of these "otaku" (on a sidenote, I found out otaku in japan is used to describe someone obsessive and weird) dress up like some characters. Mind you, I wouldn't mind seeing a beautiful woman dressed in something nice and the like but when it's a short, smelly, severly overweight boy dressed up like SAILOR MOON then I have a problem.

I find it very annoying how some of these weirdo fans think a cartoon of a woman being raped by a demon who has 20 penisessssese is erotic and entertaining.

I'm sick of 14 year old girls with 48 DDD bust lines, bunny ears and even bigger guns!

GAH.

Flame me if you want, but this is my rant against the bad side of anime and the obsessed weirdos.

 

I'm with you, Gabriel! I lived in the Land of the Rising Sun for two years, and while I love a large number of things about the country and its culture, anime is not one of them. To me, it is cheaply produced, shoddily put together (that could be an aspect of the translation, but I wouldn't bet my life on that) and often disgustingly pornographic (which I realize may not be a downside to some people, but it sure is to me!)

 

I know what you mean. I love the country, the culture, the history..the sociological & technological advances..but I hate the cartoons. Yes I know they're a form of entertainment but it seems as if American anime fans are a bit too obsessed with it. One intern I trained commented she is going to get a job teaching english in japan just so she can buy anime.

God... Sure forget about the tons of cool clubs/bars, historical sites, stores and the like. Go buy some cheesy cartoon when a girl with cat ears, absurdly large breasts gets drenched in semen all the while carrying a giant glowing sword in her quest to find the ultimate evil (yet again)

You know what was good? The anime from the late 70s to the early 80s like Galaxy Express 999 (such deeply moving messages), Macross and the like.

 

Even pornography can be done well sometimes. Anime though is mostly just like Gabriel has said and Depaara confirmed. So I'm with you two too

Especially the girls that would normally have had their spines broken due to overload. Generally I dislike big ones, but those Hindenburgs just drive me mad. It's morbid, sick and perverse. Same or even much more so the age. Those toons are mostly laden with gruppenslash and sado-maso accessories. It's awful that people are turned on by that.

Howver, some, and I repeat: some of anime is good, even very good, but it's a mere minority, some barely noticeable fraction.

[ April 28, 2003, 17:54: Message edited by: chevalier ]

 

too right chevalier. thats why i love cowboy bebop and other similar ones. stories and character development! but i also agree with you about pornography if its done well. like a playboy photoshoot for example.

then you have stuff like Legend of the Overfiend. great googly moogly..that **** is too intense. its hard to imagine someone being sexually aroused by the image of a nubile grade school girl being raped by a robot possesed by a devil.

 

Dude, you'll really like this page then. It's from one of my favorite sites: http://maddox.xmission.com/anime_nerd.html

But I do agree with you. There are the classics, like Akira, Vampire Hunter D, and Fist of the North Star - stories that actually have an interesting story and the characters are semi-realistic. But the Anime wave does take a strange turn here in the states, I've noticed. What's really sad are the hard-core "otaku" dorks who don't know (or seem to care) the difference between the anime for adults and the stuff that is clearly made for little girls. That type of Anime doesn't annoy me any more than Power Rangers or something otherwise repugnant stateside would, because I know it's for kids.

I'd be interested to know if the Japanese laugh at that. The sight of a 300 pound sweaty pizza-face shoehorning himself into a size 'M' Bubblegum Crisis T-shirt is enough to make any Japanese animator drop his pencil and back away slowly. I like a lot of Anime, but I know when fandome gets rediculous. I guess it's the culture that surrounds it that's bugs me most.

 

It´s the Rule: cheap is always ugly and disgusting, expensive always fun and enticing -be it even a ten year old shoe (renamed to "Le Shoe dë Matûre.").

But seriously; when it comes to boobs, I prefer healthy looking , so seeing even a glimpse of those perverted... oh, sorry... over-grown and un-natural ones in an anime, or anywhere else, makes me change channel very quick. But I guess this is just the thing that entices some people: that something that could not be in reality. After all, anime is a play toy of fantasy. It´s just a shame that some people take it to extremes, like everything else...

C´mon, what´s so wrong if people have some fun in costume parties? (Even if they are a bit wide from the waist and Sailor Moon fans...)

Note #1: boobs always steal the attention. Here´s a new topic for ya: "Boobs, are men genetically attracted to them?"

Note #2: That man is a real male-*****!

Note #3: Wow, nice looking computer at the banner...

[ April 14, 2003, 20:24: Message edited by: Virne ]

 

Rabbit there you have it..the hardcore fans are certainly one of the reasons I dont tell some ppl I like anime. Normal fans are automatically lumped in with those freaks

GREAT site btw!

 

@Virne

"Here´s a new topic for ya: "Boobs, are men genetically attracted to them?" "

Yes we are. On a primative level, we see a female's large, productive breasts as a sign of fertility, as with wide hips. These combined with a healthy body suggest an ideal mate who will produce strong children (who says college anthropology classes aren't interesting?). Sadly, it's in our programming. I try in vain to explain this to my girlfriend when she says, "but they're just bags of fat! I don't get it."

Now, boobs on the stereotypical Anime fan on the other hand - the site of which are enough to make you impotent for at least a month - are quite another matter.

 

HEAR HEAR!

WOW!!

I debating whether or not to visit this store in Manhattan called "Anime Crash". I want to know if they would sell dvd's of the Big O, but I just hope it's not a hokey store like those "Morning Glory" shops...

 

I'm more of a manga (comic) fan than an anime fan, but I find the views against anime a tad too harsh here.

There is an equivalent amount of horrible, lousy western cartoons in existence as well, I might point out.

And anime and hentai should be kept strictly apart, fellows. Hentai is animated porn. Anime is japanese animation. There is a big difference there.

 

Well actually Anime started in France *gasp* (Frogs! can you imagine??)

But there are really crappy anime and bad,

I liked Cowboy Bebop and Trigun, but *shudders* Dragonball was so fake

 

Well, I hate anime and manga stuff like Dragonball, Pokemon, Digimon and lots and loads more.

Only things I like, are Shrek (haven't seen Ice Age yet), Tom & Jerry and Cow & Chicken.

 

Come on Shura I dont mean ALL anime is bad.
I think my view is quite fair. Name one american cartoon depicts women as sex objects. G.I. Joe? Ozzie and Drix? Scooby Doo? The Simpsons doesn't count because it's wholly satirical and aimed at an adult market initially.

I'm not talking about the animation as well. Though I have been sick of the constant usage of speed lines in every damned cartoon.

hentai falls right into the category of japanimation because it's animated.

I hate the obsessive fans that seem to have the notion life in japan is similar to some cartoons.
One girl I know in Colorado is taking classes to learn japanese just so she can watch anime. what about using a foreign language for a career, watching cinema or reading great works of literature or even living in japan? it's such a waste of valued class time. sure, she is getting credit towards graduation. but using what you learned just to watch cartoons..come on.

I asked one fellow that was the most talkative in a chat room if he knew stuff about japan that isnt anime or video game related. he didnt know it was rude to blow one's nose in public for example. he didnt know how abusive some school teachers can be towards some students (some even cross the line; one teacher berated a handicapped student!). he didnt know about non-anime movies or non-jpop music. he didnt know how poorly run some police precincts in certain prefectures. he didnt know how the japanese look down upon the ainu or koreans born there (being born in the country does not count as being a citizen). all he knew about japan is crap he read about in fanzines and on the web. the gimp even considered manga to be lowbrow because it wasnt animated. "You cant see the expression on their faces!"

go figure.

 

@Death Rabbit: Generally the more is a man's sexuality oriented on reproducing, the more he goes for large breasts and wide hips. Some generally less reproductory men are inclined towards moderate dimensions of the sort 36-24-36 and some very few prefer 34-22-34, so it's not like every guy dreaming of huge boobs.

In evaluating anime, I may be generally overly harsh since I am closest to the last group mentionned, but I'm trying my best to be objective. Still, not going for anything below 40 is sick and I suppose we all agree here. Especially if it's some (pre)teen with 38-40 breasts and 36-38 hips like it generally is in anime.

 

Yes, Chev, I did mean in general, not every guy. I offered that explaination because on a logical level, I do agree with my girlfriend - I think it's odd we're so fascinated with those wonderful "bags of fat." I'm still happily fascinated just the same.

And also, I think extreme features are a big part of the larger-than-life feel that makes cartoons and comic book artwork so impressive and appealing. But putting these super-sized sexual features on schoolgirls is downright creepy and borders on pedophylia, or at least encourages the idea IMO.

I'm all for the beautiful bucksome scantily-clad tough-talkin' machine-gun-packin' universe-saving heroines of comics and anime - hey, it makes for the 'fantasy' aspect that makes it so much fun. But when the 'fantasy' dips into the immoral and/or criminal side, it then ceases to be art and stoops down to just plain old smut.

 

Well until now i didnt have much bad experiences with anime. In fact i've gotten some really good ones:

Rurouni kenshin

Berserk

Scryed

All of these three are great series and would certainly improve your views on anime (and hard drive usage ).
If you have DSL or cable or any other such connection its really easy to get them. They're free fan-for-fan do its not considered warez.

There are many more good animes out there but those three are my best


Edit: Oh, yeah i must point out that the first encounter with anime wasnt very encouraging, as i saw sailor moon which i don't really like. But i still tried some others and those really fascinated me.

 

Perhaps I should expand on my statements. Not all "art" is appealing to all people, and a pile of poo referred to as "art" is still just a pile of poo to any non-pretentious person.

Now, going to anime, there may be some good stories out there using this particular "art" form (my jury's still out on whether it really is an art form!) but even if it is, it is not an art form that I find aesthetically satisfying.

Take another art form I find annoying -- Opera. Now, I admit that it takes great skill to hit those high notes and to do so for extended periods of time. I still hate it -- sounds like someone being tortured to death. The same thing may be said of Anime -- while it may take great skill to draw unrealistically and produce minimalistically, it is still not something appealing to this cowboy.

Now please note, I never said other people couldn't enjoy the form, just as I've never said people who like opera shouldn't be allowed to enjoy that form, so go flame someone else

 

Not all are so career centered as you are, but I think she will be very happy that at least *something* made her learn a foreing language other than the ones taught in school.

 

Gothmog: you mentioned 3 more good ones. I like the Kenshin one cause it reminds me of Ranma 1/2 and that is definitely one of the better ones. The humor is silly and risque, along the lines of the Simpsons and sometimes Adult Swim I daresay.

Virne: That's true, at least she is learning something.