I hate Beholders

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I am having trouble with beholder's.They are always killing my main charachter(Padine the paladin) right when he is gonna kill them!!!HELP!!!!!!!!!!

[This message has been edited by Padine the Paladin (edited May 26, 2002).]

 

Try buying the sheild of Balduran from the adventurers mart in waukeens promenade, you will need the extras from the bonus pack, which you can download from sorcerers place.

 

Try casting Blind.
Not sure if that would work though.

Anyway, do as Bocam above said, purchase the shield of Balduran.
If you have a spellcaster, then cast Spell Reflection, Spell Turning or Minor Spell Turning before they blast you with their Beholder Rays.

Other than that, try to get right in there with your Tanks (Fighters,Rangers,Paladins), fully loaded up with Protective Enchantments from a Cleric, and smash those Beholders up good!

Try searching the Forum for more advice if you need it.

 

Friends

You have misunderstood me.I have the shield of balduran and I have done everything you have suggested before.I need advise on how to kill many Beholders and Gauth's faster.


Contact me a.s.a.p.(as soon as possible)
Padine the Paladine


[This message has been edited by Padine the Paladin (edited May 26, 2002).]

 

Where are you fighting them? Are you in the Underdark or in the Unseeing Eye quest?
If you're in the Underdark, you should have a certain Cloak of Mirroring that will protect you from all their attacks. To protect from their charms and domination spells try using Lilarcor or some other item/spell that gives you a mindshield.
If you're in the Unseeing Eye quest, I can't help you since I always avoid the Beholders and Gauths.

 

Ok, if you have the shield of balduran here's what to do.
1) Find the beholders/beholder kin
2) Make sure shield is equipped and walk up to them.
3) Stand there and laugh as their eye rays bounce back and kill them
4) take spoils of battle when they are all dead.

But here's the way that you are taught not to be smug about it...
Thoae elder orbs, when you try this they decide to cast imprisonment. This is annoying when it's your main character, so if you think there's one ahead make sure there's a freedom scroll (can't remember the spells exact name) handy, and send some one else in, when they get affected by the spell release them.
Erm, out of curiosity, how do you die from beholders when you have the shield of Balduran? Were they attacking you in melee instead of using their eye rays?

 

I didn't know Beholders COULD attack in hand-to-hand. Even if they can, they shouldn't stand a chance against a paladin.

 

Yes thay can, they get a very damaging bite attack, and they do have a good THAC0 in D&D so they can take a paladin easily with the amount of HP they have too. Thats why i use the whole party to take them out whenevr i am with Baldurans shield in BG2, oh and lots of summoned monsters.

 

and summoned skeletons mow through them with embarassing ease - i once sent 5 in and when i wandered in to check all 5 of the skeletons were standing round bored

 

Vermillion was the only one who understood me.I get killed by them because thy come and bite me(about 3-4)and sometimes they use imprisoment.

[This message has been edited by Padine the Paladin (edited May 28, 2002).]

 

This is in the FAQ, but what the hell...

A good way to take out lots of beholders without getting your hands dirty is to cast Wizard Eye.
Send the eye over to find the beholders and monitor their movements.
Get your wizards to cast Cloud Kill while keep ing far enough away so that the beholders don't see them. Use the Wizard Eye to target your spells.
Most beholders and gauths will eventually die from the poison and the remainder will be softened up enough that a Fireball spell or some summoned skeletons should be able to take them down without too much trouble.

A cheesy loophole also mentioned in the FAQ (you should really read this by the way - http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/index_tips.php) is that beholders never use their eye beams on summoned creatures (I think gauths do, however).
I often use the Horn of Valhalla to summon a berserker or create some skeletons and just send them in to hack the beholder to death.

I agree with Vermillion that the beholders described in the AD&D rules have a good THACO, but their bite only does 2d4 damage.
In BG-SOA I find them very poor fighters and one berserker can usually take out a beholder with no trouble at all (so long as they don't use their eye beams).

 

You've gotta love the Spectator though..

 

I never tried summoning a pitfiend, but people say it works very well...

 

I've never tried with a pit fiend either, and I always forget to cast protection from evil.

But thats not the point, I find that the best way to get rid of them is with a handful of strong fighters, a couple of haste spells, and then rush in to engage in close combat. having a thief with a high backstab damage too is handy. And when fighting beholders and beholder kin, the afore mentioned shield is always your best friend.

PS, don't forget to save before hand, always handy.

[This message has been edited by DinoTiggy1 (edited May 28, 2002).]

 

Oh, I had no idea they could attack in hand-to-hand, guess I always killed them too quickly . You still haven't said where you fight them, though, 'cause if you have or can soon get the Cloak of Mirroring, just give it to your paladin and send him into combat with the beholders. I used this when I had an elven barbarian and he could easily take out 3 beholders, since with the cloak their spells rebound on themselves.
I wouldn't recommend cloudkill, because they somehow know where you are when you cast it. Every time I have Aerie cast cloudkill on a beholder/gauth, and then run away, the damn thing follows me, even when I cast it from a point it couldn't see me (i.e. I don't even aim the spell directly at the creature because I'm too far away).

 

It's odd that the beholders see you when you fire a cloudkill. I use the wizard eye to target the spell and I even place it a little short of the beholder just to make sure that I don't get too close.

Beholders and gauths are immune to backstab so a thief isn't much help here. Yeah, they get the first hit, but then the beholder turns and fries them. I use my thief to find the beholders then I move her to a safe distance.

I find a good tank fighter with the cloak of mirroring is the best. One of these can wade through a batch of beholders and gauths like a lawn mower.
But that wasn't the question originally asked.

 

Mage/theives come in handy here. esspecially with very high Hide In Shadows and Move Silently.
Spoiler/Expolit below!!!
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For a Mage/Theif, give them a wand of Cloudkill. Hide in Shadows, Move close enough to where they are just our of your vision, while hidden in shadows. Pause the game, select the wand from your quickslot, target the ground in the area you want it to go off. Click, then un pause the game, when the ball of CloudKill goes out from the wand, pause the game again. Tell your Mage/Theif to hide in shadows again and sit there watching the damage register on the little bar at the bottom of the screen.

 

Huh, I just used protection from magic scrolls on my two best fighters and let them hack away. It's worked for me so far.

 

[*]DeBhaal Stasion,
actually you don't even need to have a mage-thief to sucessfully use the wand of cloudkill on beholders. just send a scout (ranger/ pure thief) ahead until he sees the beholders, then cast the cloudkilljust a little in front of the beholders soi they cannot see the the caster, so easy. No need for exploits

[*]Stefanina,
the scrolls of magic protection are very effective and work splemdidly on beholders, no doubt. The problem is that there are just two of them in the game - there might be other opportunities when you need them, maybe when dealing with liches ...

[*]My fav beholder tactic:
I found the cloak of reflection and boots of speed on a fighter very effective to deal with beholders. I then gave him the cloak of reflection, regenative items and the girdle of inertial barrier to (preferrably) my archer and sent the fighter in melee, holding the archer a little behind to give fire support. Worked smooth, the little damage the archer took was quickly regenerated, the girdle further reduced the damage taken and the beholders usually concentrated onm the frontman. When your frontliner is a pally he can even stand in a cloudkill upunished since he's immune to poison

EDIT: When your main char always died he didn't, by any chance, became inprisoned? Well, that is a spell neither the cloak of reflection nor the shield of Balduran protect you from. When you just stand around, hoping for your mighty items to do the work for you, you just die. Attack the elder death tyrrants first, since they are the only beholders able to cast that spell.

[This message has been edited by Ragusa (edited May 29, 2002).]