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I hope he suffers

Discussion in 'Alley of Dangerous Angles' started by Barmy Army, Sep 3, 2003.

  1. Barmy Army

    Barmy Army Simple mind, simple pleasures... Adored Veteran

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    He won't be needing any food for a while...

    MSBlast Spreader!

    ...No doubt knowing America he'll sue Microsoft and McDonalds for making him fat and unable to leave the house :p
     
  2. Death Rabbit

    Death Rabbit Straight, no chaser Adored Veteran Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Yep, you know us silly Americans. We wouldn't know what to do with ourselves if we weren't suing people. Because, of course, nothing is our fault. Hmmm. Now that you mention it, the Snickers bar I ate last week did NOT satisfy my hunger, as advertised. I think I'll sue them for it. After all, it's only been about an hour sinced I've sued someone. You know...that's what we do, after all.

    (Very tongue-in-cheek and not meant as an attack, but I believe you get my point.) :toofar:

    On Topic: Fry the little bastard. :evil:
     
  3. Barmy Army

    Barmy Army Simple mind, simple pleasures... Adored Veteran

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    lol Death Rabbit :)

    I didn't mean any offence with my comment on America mate ^^ its pretty much the same over here! I just don't like people who sue about any little thing under the sun, just to get abit of cash.

    Just a little vex of mine :p

    Wasn't meant as an offence friend :thumb:
     
  4. Death Rabbit

    Death Rabbit Straight, no chaser Adored Veteran Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!)

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    Gotcha. Maybe a little sensative at the anti-American sentiment that seems to flow freely here as of late. Thought this was just more of that. Funny, regardless. :D

    I can't stand little bastards like that (on topic, now) who think it's fun to send out viruses and screw up peoples lives. Computers are expensive, and expensive to fix when something goes wrong. I have a friend who does on-site/in-home computer servicing, and he's making a killing right now. He charges $40/hour, and believe it or not he's one of the cheap ones. My parents are lucky I'm not clueless about computers, because I was able to take care of the problem when we got hit with the very virus this little dickwad sent out. I know he didn't write it, but he certainly didn't sit idly by either.
     
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    LOL!

    He's going to be real popular in prison! :evil:
     
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    Mercy.

    It was Microsoft that left the door open that allowed the Blaster virus entry. Microsoft has still left many other doors open. It took Steve Gibson (Creator of Zonealarm) a few kilobytes of code to slam those doors shut. To quote him;

    ‘I worked quite hard (and failed) to convince Microsoft not to ship Windows XP with full raw socket capabilities built-in. ’

    Microsoft does not do what is best for its customers. It does what is best for Microsoft.

    Microsoft spends millions on its 'Where do you want to go today?' product sales campaign. It spent nothing on a ‘You are about to get shafted by a lonely kid on his home computer’ campaign. It didn’t want to advertise the fact that the most pre-eminent Computer Software company in the world had been caught with its trousers down. The shameful way that Microsoft neglected to loudly broadcast the existence of such an embarrassing vulnerability is what allowed the Blaster worm to proliferate for so long after a patch was available. Jeffrey Lee Parson didn’t create the vulnerability, Microsoft did, with full knowledge of the possible implications.

    That was why the text included in the worm asked why Microsoft made its existence possible. The answer is of course easy. To increase profit margins today, and to make the operation of each and every individual computer remotely controllable by the Microsoft Mothership tomorrow.

    I already mentioned in another thread that the Blaster worm was only half formed. If it had been kept under wraps until it was fully developed and then targeted only at those computers that held sensitive financial information, then it could have done a lot more damage than just causing home computers to keeping restarting until it was deleted.

    If Jeffrey Lee Parson is used as a sacrificial lamb nothing will change. If his inadvertent actions in exposing the ‘Emperor of Microsoft’s new clothes’ as being just a scandalous sham are applauded, then maybe the lion will have to learn to lie down with the lamb.


    (He should off course be locked up for a while with a few hardened criminals that will be able to teach him how not to get caught in the future and why you should always make every crime you undertake pay.)
     
  7. Death Rabbit

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    Come on, man. This sounds like you're basically saying "Don't blame the criminal for committing the crime, because the victim made it easy by leaving the door wide open. It's the victim's fault." I agree with everything you had to say about Microsoft's negligence, but virus writers aren't obligated to screw over millions of people just because they have a grudge against microsoft. They're jerk-offs. They do this for fun, and Jeffrey Lee Parson is no exception. Don't blame Microsoft for what happened. They didn't write the virus, and them covering up their mistake, ethical or not, is not an invitation for hackers to write one.
     
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    [Edit: The Bunny beat me to the same point! You beat me by about 30 seconds, you lagomorphic bastard ;) Oh well, on to my now-derivitive looking post]

    Bluin, I hate Microsoft with a passion, but just because they left a window open on their software does not make them responsible for the actions of others -- It's like if I leave my door unlocked and 2 kids come in and beat the tar out of me, saying it's my fault for leaving the door open!

    Now, granted, I should have been more careful, but leaving the door open does not give those kids the right to beat me bloody. And of course, it wasn't just Microsoft who got hurt, it was people who trusted them, but still, the kid had no right to propagate that virus.

    On another note, people in prison are hardly qualified to tell someone how NOT to get caught!
     
  9. Taluntain

    Taluntain Resident Alpha and Omega Staff Member ★ SPS Account Holder Resourceful Adored Veteran Pillars of Eternity SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) New Server Contributor [2012] (for helping Sorcerer's Place lease a new, more powerful server!) Torment: Tides of Numenera SP Immortalizer (for helping immortalize Sorcerer's Place in the game!) BoM XenForo Migration Contributor [2015] (for helping support the migration to new forum software!)

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    [​IMG] Morsmordre, it's too late to edit that our of your post, but it is obvious you haven't read the AoDA rules sticky. Such crude generalizations are against the rules of this forum. This is your only warning - next time you break one of the rules of this forum your access to it will be removed. I suggest you go read the rules sticky right away.
     
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    @ LKD, The Blaster worm is a special virus that does not require the user to do anything at all (not view web pages, not download suff, not run stuff, nothing), so long as there is an internet connection present, that is all it needs.

    You didn't leave the door open. The person that you paid and trusted to guard the door left it open, and did so on purpose.

    And its not just a door. Its all the doors and windows.

    The person who came in didn't beat you bloody, he started turning the telly on and off until you got annoyed and told him to leave (I think that doing so is actually legal in this analogy?)

    I think that whether or not the guy commited a serious crime (more than a misdemeanour) is a little bit beside the point.

    My point is that if this guy is burnt at the stake and, everybody starts running around singing 'Ding dong! The witch is dead!', then Microsoft will get off the hook, with their reputation intact, and without having to answer to the people they let down.


    :offtopic: for anyone interested;
    Shields Up , in case anyone doesn't know about it, is a web page that tests your computer's security. Give the page a few minutes to load and do its thing.

    Another quick check;
    http://jscript.dk/2001/3/cdrom.jpg

    If your cd suddenly developed a life of its own, the reason why is on these boards here

    [ September 03, 2003, 22:17: Message edited by: Bluin ]
     
  11. Barmy Army

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    @ Tal

    [Edit - Sorry! I misread your message Tal! Apologies! Got my thick head on today! :p

    I now see what you were warning me about.

    It shall not happen again :( ]

    [ September 03, 2003, 22:49: Message edited by: Morsmordre ]
     
  12. Splunge

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    @ Bluin
    The problem is that, even though Microsoft should be tarred and feathered for allowing such vulnerabilities in their software, nobody is asking some hacker to write and/or spread a virus which takes advantage of those vulnerabilities. Parson should still be prosecuted. But your point about Microsoft using him as a smoke screen is a good one.
     
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